Reply to: ohh goody anther quiz Genz slang

[Gibbon]

No, you still don't get it. You are taking my general discussion point and personalising it, and chucking in a couple of ad hominem comments as flavouring. I'm nmore than happy to discuss my thesis and even accept it is wrong (which is quite likely) but you aren't doing that, you're just calling me names.

Is this the £5 argument or the full £20 one?

Which tulip translator did you get that junk from. I called you no names ( oh the irony from the one who called me "narrow minded"), just I don't think you are as wise as you like to think you are. And definitely place too much store by books in my opinion.

I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know.

Plato Apology 21d

[vetran]

It started with a quiz ... warning incoming earwig!

[malvolio]

Too late, already given up!

[DoctorStrangelove]

Time for Our Rog:

[WTFH]

I feel like I've stumbled into the comments section of a Wail article.

[northernladuk]

[malvolio]

this man is wiser than I; He is in danger with a man who is not good and lovely, but he does not know what he does not do, but he does not know what he does not have, but he does not know what he is; For the sake of this little thing, this wiser man is, that I am not a group.

(BTW I kept my language learning very "narrow", only Greek and Latin)

No, you still don't get it. You are taking my general discussion point and personalising it, and chucking in a couple of ad hominem comments as flavouring. I'm nmore than happy to discuss my thesis and even accept it is wrong (which is quite likely) but you aren't doing that, you're just calling me names.

Is this the £5 argument or the full £20 one?

[Gibbon]

I know what dogma means. Perhaps you should look up "narrow minded".

τούτου μὲν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐγὼ σοφώτερός εἰμι· κινδυνεύει μὲν γὰρ ἡμῶν οὐδέτερος οὐδὲν καλὸν κἀγαθὸν εἰδέναι, ἀλλ᾽ οὗτος μὲν οἴεταί τι εἰδέναι οὐκ εἰδώς, ἐγὼ δέ, ὥσπερ οὖν οὐκ οἶδα, οὐδὲ οἴομαι· ἔοικα γοῦν τούτου γε σμικρῷ τινι αὐτῷ τούτῳ σοφώτερος εἶναι, ὅτι ἃ μὴ οἶδα οὐδὲ οἴομαι εἰδέναι.

(BTW I kept my language learning very "narrow", only Greek and Latin)

[WTFH]

All these generation theory labels like Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X and Boomer are just lazy. A Millennial is now aged between 28 and 43 which is such a wide and diverse cohort as to be very limited in anything other than defaulting to vague generalisations and stereotyping.

Researchers and marketeers are slowly starting to move away from his kind of segmentation but in the meantime it's great for media headlines.

Media headlines are great by pulling on the nostalgia strings of their demographics.

9/11 was 22 years ago. For a teenager it is history.
Falklands war was 42 years ago. For a 30 year old it is history.
WWII finished 79 years ago. For a 70 year old, it is history.

But headlines like to imply that things are very recent.

The film Back to the Future had Marty go back 30 years (1985 - 1955), when rock and roll was just starting, and it was a laugh at how old fashioned it was back then when they played "Earth Angel". If the film was released now, then 30 years ago this week the UK number one was Things Can Only Get Better by D:Ream.

[malvolio]

I think the last sentence is the key one.

It's also the point I was trying to make earlier...

[edison]

what are they moving to? The Noughties, tens-ies?

Not quite. This is what Pew Research announced last year - they are one of the most well known social research bodies.

"We’ll only do generational analysis when we have historical data that allows us to compare generations at similar stages of life. When comparing generations, it’s crucial to control for age. In other words, researchers need to look at each generation or age cohort at a similar point in the life cycle. (“Age cohort” is a fancy way of referring to a group of people who were born around the same time.)

When doing this kind of research, the question isn’t whether young adults today are different from middle-aged or older adults today. The question is whether young adults today are different from young adults at some specific point in the past."

I think the last sentence is the key one.

[vetran]

All these generation theory labels like Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X and Boomer are just lazy. A Millennial is now aged between 28 and 43 which is such a wide and diverse cohort as to be very limited in anything other than defaulting to vague generalisations and stereotyping.

Researchers and marketeers are slowly starting to move away from his kind of segmentation but in the meantime it's great for media headlines.

what are they moving to? The Noughties, tens-ies?

[edison]

All these generation theory labels like Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X and Boomer are just lazy. A Millennial is now aged between 28 and 43 which is such a wide and diverse cohort as to be very limited in anything other than defaulting to vague generalisations and stereotyping.

Researchers and marketeers are slowly starting to move away from his kind of segmentation but in the meantime it's great for media headlines.

[malvolio]

^^^^^^^^^^
dogma (a positive, arrogant assertion of opinion, Collins).

I know what dogma means. Perhaps you should look up "narrow minded".

[Gibbon]

Jeez, more limited understanding.

Read widely - novels, biographies, histories, the Gruffalo. The source doesn't matter, retaining just a percentage of what you read does. It's amazing how much peripheral knowledge you pick along the way.


On average, perhaps they are. Doesn't mean they understand how it works or why. Perhaps I'm biased - I started with computer technology in 1970. It's never held any fears. All that the latest iteration has done is force me to use my thumbs instead of a keyboard. But filtering data? Not a chance without a wider general education, you will have little context on which to do that.

^^^^^^^^^^
dogma (a positive, arrogant assertion of opinion, Collins).