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[d000hg]

Mumsnet is gold!

[jamesbrown]

Why would only posting in General be considered a bad thing? Not sure who you're referring to but there are some posters who would be best staying out of the professional sections because they don't seem to know what the word means. It's bad enough when someone is an unremitting tool in General.

Not so much a bad thing, as a worthless thing. General has no more value than mumsnet. The professional forums have real value. Light relief is good too, I suppose. YMMV.

[d000hg]

It's true, I'm not. However, I don't only post (fluff) in general, like some others...

Why would only posting in General be considered a bad thing? Not sure who you're referring to but there are some posters who would be best staying out of the professional sections because they don't seem to know what the word means. It's bad enough when someone is an unremitting tool in General.

[jamesbrown]

If you read JB's other stuff he's hardly an angel, so I think your original point stands.

It's true, I'm not. However, I don't only post (fluff) in general, like some others...

[d000hg]

In case anyone is interested, which seems unlikely. This is what NowPermOutsideUK originally posted.



NowPermOutsideUK - if you want to delete a thread, ask the moderators, and we may do it if you have sound reasons. Otherwise, doing what you did is vandalising the discussion. Have you considered only posting when you're sober?

What fun would the forum be if we did that [hic].

Hmmm. You could be right, didn't read his other stuff.

If you read JB's other stuff he's hardly an angel, so I think your original point stands.

[Fraidycat]

I look at rightmove each day to see what houses are for sale to gauge the price of my house

Do you at the same time?

There are better sites for that kind of thing

[jamesbrown]

it’s gone downhill badly since I was last in charge

Downhill in the sense that it's descended from Turd Mountain, yes.

[MarillionFan]

He's not an admin. He's a moderator (and a very naughty boy). He certainly isn't a leader.

Hes not a naughty boy he’s a truly shocking moderator.

it’s gone downhill badly since I was last in charge

[ladymuck]

Maybe it is just me but I look at rightmove each day to see what houses are for sale to gauge the price of my house. I am sure many others do that

I would have thought that rates (not jobserve where the recruiters say "market rates" or "top rates") are a common topic amongst IT professionals? Just saying ...

Every day?

Wow you really do have self-esteem issues.

[WTFH]

Maybe it is just me but I look at rightmove each day to see what houses are for sale to gauge the price of my house. I am sure many others do that

It’s just you.

Yes, some people will look to see what is on the market occasionally. If you’re doing it each day to judge your house against others, then either it is your job, or it is the focus of your life.

[NowPermOutsideUK]

Maybe it is just me but I look at rightmove each day to see what houses are for sale to gauge the price of my house. I am sure many others do that

I would have thought that rates (not jobserve where the recruiters say "market rates" or "top rates") are a common topic amongst IT professionals? Just saying ...

[vetran]

If you were one of the top performers in your team and then you found out others who contributed less got paid more, i am sure you would care.
But if you were one of the lower performers/slackers then i agree you probably wouldn't give two hoots.

if its a sales or finance wonk that is normal. Technical tends to be the poor relation in pay regardless how good you are.

[Whorty]

If you were one of the top performers in your team and then you found out others who contributed less got paid more, i am sure you would care.
But if you were one of the lower performers/slackers then i agree you probably wouldn't give two hoots.

Probably worth remembering too that we're not all keyboard crunchers, so 'productivity' isn't always easy to measure in lines of code in some of our roles.

As a 'Head of', should I compare myself to my team members, or my peers in other 'Head of' roles, who's roles are totally different to mine, with different skills and market rates?

[ladymuck]

If you were one of the top performers in your team and then you found out others who contributed less got paid more, i am sure you would care.
But if you were one of the lower performers/slackers then i agree you probably wouldn't give two hoots.

I agree with Whorty. I will be earning what I asked for or was happy to agree to. That means I'm earning enough to keep the roof over my head, my bar stocked and holidays paid for. If someone else is earning more than me for doing less then well done them.

I get lots of repeat work because I'm good at what I do (whatever the hell that is) and I represent good value for money. The shysters who fleece the client on rates and deliver FA tend to (a) not last long and (b) not get repeat work. They get their jobs through mates and the unwary who fall for a sales pitch. I get my work through recommendation.

[Whorty]

on THESE forums??

We're legal adults ... it's just mental age and physical age may differ somewhat