Reply to: Same bank different contracts

[TheDude]

Not quite the same but my CV doesn't have the name of where I have worked, I just put bank or insurance or government agency. I don't want agencies to know where I have worked and the client can always ask me at the interview.

Presumably if you answer RBS and/or Barclays they end the interview and tell you to **** off.

[rocktronAMP]

Hiya, so I'm in bank A role A. I hate and dont plan to extend. I've been offered another role in Bank A with a different agency.

Is this going to be a problem.

Having two different agencies representing is the issue. IMHO
Agency P could have the PSL and the best relationship with the hiring manager
Agency Q could be totally off the PSL and have a very poor record.
You definitely should check out Linkedin for Agency P and Agency Q and their actual individuals and the reputation.

It's a pity. Because in the noughties, I jumped ship at UBS 100 at Liverpool Street. I was working a 3 month rolling contract that was drawing to its conclusion in September. I had a renewal but the second they said "Nah", but long before Slack was invented and Whatapps were used within banks, UBS had an internal chat product called MIND ALIGN. I said I was leaving on the #java channel inside UBS, exactly 10 minutes after my message, another UBS hiring manager in a different area of the bank said that they were looking for an enterprise Java developer for a 3 month contract. I was able to go see the manager, he asked me couple of questions, spoke to my current manager. We were able to get the contract sorted out quickly. All I had to do was inform the agency: Robert Walters I think it was or maybe it was Huxley. Simple. I got a 4 month extension of a 6 month contract. I started in October. I just turned up on Monday monday in a new department, none of the faff of inductions, waiting for ID, Internet access or FCSA compliance to deal.

OP in your case, it is a pity that you don't have the same agency.

BTW: UBS had this rule that a contractor could only remain in the company for 10 months. You had to be exceptional, like work in front office role, work in exotics trading or something financial lucrative and get £££$$$ to get HR to bend the rules. I wasn't. Good luck

[darmstadt]

Yes really. That's extremely uncommon to say the least. I've never seen it with any clients or CV's I've sifted through.

I'd be very suspicious if someone had an agency on the CV. In a vast majority of cases it will be to deliberaltey obscure something as in this case.

Not quite the same but my CV doesn't have the name of where I have worked, I just put bank or insurance or government agency. I don't want agencies to know where I have worked and the client can always ask me at the interview.

[Guy Incognito]

I have never signed a contract that did not have a non-solicitation clause.

I've stayed with a client but moved agents twice and both times the client told the agent to eat it and I got it in writing they wouldn't pursue me.

[Whorty]

Isn't there also the risk that Agency 1 claim that they introduced you to the bank, and therefore you must go through them? That used to be a clause in agency contracts, so worth checking.

Your get-out is if you can prove the role was advertised externally and you applied blind, not knowing who the end client was until interview/selection and that you working there now had no influence on being offered the role.

Even though, be prepared for some threats from Agency 1

[northernladuk]

Can't help thinking keeping the info secret isn't helping anyone here. If there is an issue it's going to come out anyway so make the enquiries as to the two agents relationship and find out what's going on first with the desired outcome to be able to progress all above board?

[eek]

There will still be a million access requests required for a new role.

Yep but it may be easier to add authorisation to an existing one accounting rather than creating a completely new one.

However it would make it very easy for agency 1 to discover you are still there when you email doesn't bounce as it otherwise would.

So on second thoughts if agency 1 doesn't know what you are doing and are happy with it try and get a new email address created.

[TheDude]

Knowing how long and painful new worker take-on can be at some banks, it may be sensible to let at least your reporting manager in the new team know that you're already working for the bank and have various accounts & access pass etc set up. Otherwise it's likely that the infra / admin / facilities teams will just terminate all your access and you'll be forced to go through the whole process needlessly again.

There will still be a million access requests required for a new role.

[Snooky]

The new team don't know I already work there

Knowing how long and painful new worker take-on can be at some banks, it may be sensible to let at least your reporting manager in the new team know that you're already working for the bank and have various accounts & access pass etc set up. Otherwise it's likely that the infra / admin / facilities teams will just terminate all your access and you'll be forced to go through the whole process needlessly again.

[TheDude]

Yes really. That's extremely uncommon to say the least. I've never seen it with any clients or CV's I've sifted through.

I'd be very suspicious if someone had an agency on the CV. In a vast majority of cases it will be to deliberaltey obscure something as in this case.

May 2019 - May 2020 - Professional services provider to Gary Lager Resourcing

Responsibilities included liaising with shiny suit wideboys and chasing unpaid/incorrectly paid invoices.

[PerfectStorm]

Not really.

I have had clauses where I've not been allowed to name the client either until certain work is in the public domain or until a certain period of time has passed. Stupid thing is as soon as you describe them and mention what part of the country you were in everyone knows who they are.

Ah, GCHQ

[northernladuk]

Not really.

I have had clauses where I've not been allowed to name the client either until certain work is in the public domain or until a certain period of time has passed. Stupid thing is as soon as you describe them and mention what part of the country you were in everyone knows who they are.

Yes really. That's extremely uncommon to say the least. I've never seen it with any clients or CV's I've sifted through.

I'd be very suspicious if someone had an agency on the CV. In a vast majority of cases it will be to deliberaltey obscure something as in this case.

[SueEllen]

That is really weird.

Not really.

I have had clauses where I've not been allowed to name the client either until certain work is in the public domain or until a certain period of time has passed. Stupid thing is as soon as you describe them and mention what part of the country you were in everyone knows who they are.

[TheDude]

The CV does not say the end client only the agency

That is really weird.

[BrandNewOne]

I assume it's not on your CV then. How did you explain the gap if you haven't put your current gig on?

The CV does not say the end client only the agency