Reply to: Farmers clutching at straws

[BR14]

Agreed. Fanatical belief and blind faith is always a worry.

They were good, them.

[Whorty]

Or any church, for that matter...........

Agreed. Fanatical belief and blind faith is always a worry.

[BR14]

Beware the church of Brexit ....

Or any church, for that matter...........

[Whorty]

Beware the church of Brexit ....

[Zigenare]

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!

At least someone is saluting what's been run up the flagpole!

[DaveB]

Exactly!

More than that however: Brexit is an idealogy, but a particular type of idealogy called 'faith'. When you are asked to believe in God it's not a case that "We might not be able to give you much evidence for what we say". It's categorically "We will not give you any evidence. If you have evidence, it is no longer a faith. You need to believe unthinkingly. That's what makes it special. That's what makes it promise the solution to all your dreams"

Remoaners just don't see that. They just can't get it. They can't achieve Nirvana (or at least the hope that Nirvana will arrive one sunny day) because they keep asking pointless questions.

We don't need the mainstream media. We don't need fake news. We need a Messiah.

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy!

[Cirrus]

Brexit: The Opiate of the People (or 48% of them)

So if you are asking for detailed ideas on Brexit ...you are asking for fantasy.

Exactly!

More than that however: Brexit is an idealogy, but a particular type of idealogy called 'faith'. When you are asked to believe in God it's not a case that "We might not be able to give you much evidence for what we say". It's categorically "We will not give you any evidence. If you have evidence, it is no longer a faith. You need to believe unthinkingly. That's what makes it special. That's what makes it promise the solution to all your dreams"

Remoaners just don't see that. They just can't get it. They can't achieve Nirvana (or at least the hope that Nirvana will arrive one sunny day) because they keep asking pointless questions.

We don't need the mainstream media. We don't need fake news. We need a Messiah.

[Yorkie62]

They do. You're missing the point. Brexiteers believe in an idealogy. They tell you we are going to get fantastic free trade opportunities across the known world and beyond, massive growth energised by being freed from the shackles of the evil EU bogeymen, freedom, old fashioned light bulbs and 3KW hairdryers, and sovereignty. You keep asking for detail but, really, that's a bit petty minded. That can all be sorted out over the next 50 or so years. Or whenever.

Support the idealogy and stop this moaning about absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

But isn't there a deal on the table...the chequers deal? The problem is not everyone likes the chequers deal. So if you are asking for detailed ideas on Brexit that everyone agrees with and likes, including the EU and those that voted remain, then you are never going to get those ideas. what you are asking for is fantasy.

[Cirrus]

Only a few thousand will die because of the decaying NHS

come up with ideas as to what we are meant to be supporting

They do. You're missing the point. Brexiteers believe in an idealogy. They tell you we are going to get fantastic free trade opportunities across the known world and beyond, massive growth energised by being freed from the shackles of the evil EU bogeymen, freedom, old fashioned light bulbs and 3KW hairdryers, and sovereignty. You keep asking for detail but, really, that's a bit petty minded. That can all be sorted out over the next 50 or so years. Or whenever.

Support the idealogy and stop this moaning about absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

[WTFH]

Ah, so the voters can make policies on Brexit now can then? What a bellend.

I guess if you selectively quote to take things out of context, then you could twist it that way.

Here's the bits you omitted:

But you are sticking your head in the sand - the UK is leaving the EU and sitting there moaning about it and not looking to the future is the almost exact definition of sticking your head in the sand.

It's happening - what are you going to do to support it?

When one of your lot comes up with a plan that is workable, then there'll be support. For now there are dreams, soundbites and zero substance, just like for the last 2+ years. If the Brexit supporters/leaders can come up with an idea that they can explain and present arguments for that are backed up with facts, then maybe the process will move forward.

And if they do not are you going to sit in a corner, sulk and starve?

What example are you going to give to the youth? If you do not get your own way it is okay to spit your dummy out and cry?

I do not think the youth of today need that encouragement - do you?

Now, re-read my reply that you quoted.

It appears those of us who voted to remain are supposed to be supporting something, but we have been given no clue by the Brexit camp what it is, so why shouldn't the "bellends" who voted for it show some support and come up with ideas as to what we are meant to be supporting, or is it just easier for them to say "not my job, someone else's problem, must be someone else I can blame"

[LondonManc]

Well, if they do not come up with a workable solution, then it's a hard Brexit, return to the Troubles in NI, and lots of DM headlines about how the EU is to blame (or deflection headlines to take away from the real issues)

The example I am going to give to the youth is that despite the idiotic majority who voted to leave the EU, but then skulked away into the corners and refused to do anything positive about it, that it is possible to carry on with the same ethics and principles I have today. Treat others the way I would like to be treated. Search for the truth, not the hype. Respect others. Respect the environment. Know where your food comes from. Try to do something positive, not negative.

What example are you giving to the youth? Oh yes... If you do not get your own way it's okay to spit out your dummy and cry. Make sure you know who to blame for everything, make sure you never accept responsibility for everything, don't worry about the environment or others, as long as you're alright.

Ah, so the voters can make policies on Brexit now can then? What a bellend.

[vetran]

Still laughing at this. remoaners making up tulip as they do.

FTFY

[AtW]

They all scream down there...

[BlasterBates]

Still laughing at this. Daily Wail readers saying they think foreigners, Muslims, etc, have exactly the same rights as they do.

[WTFH]

...those who vote brexit are more the live and let live type .

Still laughing at this. Daily Wail readers saying they think foreigners, Muslims, etc, have exactly the same rights as they do.