NHS - no more outside IR35

[Support Monkey]

Just received a letter from the NHS trust I have previous contracted directly for, looks like that's the end of that then

I can only assume many other NHS trusts will follow.

Basically says that any new third party or short term engagement made after April the 5th will not be engaged outside of IR35 and deductions will be made for associated Employment taxes and NI via payroll or umbrella arrangment.

This applies to both healthcare workers and non-medical agency workers.

[eek]

Just received a letter from the NHS trust I have previous contracted directly for, looks like that's the end of that then

I can only assume many other NHS trusts will follow.

Basically says that any new third party or short term engagement made after April the 5th will not be engaged outside of IR35 and deductions will be made for associated Employment taxes and NI via payroll or umbrella arrangment.

This applies to both healthcare workers and non-medical agency workers.

They are going to have fun filling gaps come April....

[Support Monkey]

They are going to have fun filling gaps come April....

My thoughts exactly, although not difficult for non medical to go private but medical staff probably won't have that choice.

Is it going to push wages up as people try to cover the loss?

[Lurker101]

Just received a letter from the NHS trust I have previous contracted directly for, looks like that's the end of that then

I can only assume many other NHS trusts will follow.

Basically says that any new third party or short term engagement made after April the 5th will not be engaged outside of IR35 and deductions will be made for associated Employment taxes and NI via payroll or umbrella arrangment.

This applies to both healthcare workers and non-medical agency workers.

Interesting. My current NHS client has started to address this today they are looking to engage with each if it's interim's individually. They have also stated they can process invoices received before the 5th April by the 5th which is a nice touch. How it actually pans out is another matter.

[NHS1979]

I think the vast majority of NHS organisations will do this. My own is doing case-by-case assessment, but not heard a peep from HR dept for weeks - I can only imagine they think they will do assessment sometime this month or later (unaware that people are leaving anyway). The actual end client continues offering me all sorts of options inside and outside - I keep saying no I have to leave.

Annoyingly there are contractors staying where I am, all in directorship positions, line managing staff, one has been there for 2 years. Makes me look extreme for leaving. I hope they get caught.

[SueEllen]

I think the vast majority of NHS organisations will do this. My own is doing case-by-case assessment, but not heard a peep from HR dept for weeks - I can only imagine they think they will do assessment sometime this month or later (unaware that people are leaving anyway). The actual end client continues offering me all sorts of options inside and outside - I keep saying no I have to leave.

Annoyingly there are contractors staying where I am, all in directorship positions, line managing staff, one has been there for 2 years. Makes me look extreme for leaving. I hope they get caught.

They are already caught.

[cojak]

Annoyingly there are contractors staying where I am, all in directorship positions, line managing staff, one has been there for 2 years. Makes me look extreme for leaving. I hope they get caught.

Don't forget to point them to this site before you go.

We all like a good laugh...

[notahappybunny]

My PSB (Trust) are not interested in determination tools / QDOS etc.......ruled my interim contract inside IR35 and no attempt to retain or consult with me whatsoever. Line manager fully understands my reasons for leaving but is absolutely frantic as they have already tried to recruit a suitably skilled / experienced permanent employee (unsuccessfully twice) and actually wanted to extend my contract.

Agreed to stay until 30th (monies paid before the 5th agreed )but even if they do find a suitable candidate (position not advertised at the moment) it is likely to be a 6 month process to get someone in place.

Seems such a shame

[cojak]

My PSB (Trust) are not interested in determination tools / QDOS etc.......ruled my interim contract inside IR35 and no attempt to retain or consult with me whatsoever. Line manager fully understands my reasons for leaving but is absolutely frantic as they have already tried to recruit a suitably skilled / experienced permanent employee (unsuccessfully twice) and actually wanted to extend my contract.

Agreed to stay until 30th (monies paid before the 5th agreed )but even if they do find a suitable candidate (position not advertised at the moment) it is likely to be a 6 month process to get someone in place.

Seems such a shame

A shame yes, but you haven't caused this problem - you're just reacting to it.

[northernladuk]

A shame yes, but you haven't caused this problem - you're just reacting to it.

You could argue there are plenty of people sat around the previous poster that have caused this.