Results of the public sector consultation is up

[Qdos Contractor]

They could do - or they could see how they can provide real and practical support to contractors who want to challenge their status or find out about alternative ways of providing their services to the public sector.

WSS. Clearly the legislation is going to change things but we’re doing everything we can to have a positive impact before it is implemented.

The shift of responsibility to the public sector body undoubtedly makes it more difficult for us to have an immediate involvement and there remain a number of grey areas which need to be clarified. However, we’ll continue to engage with as many affected parties as possible over the coming months.

Again, always happy to take questions on here.

Seb

[sal]

If we are paying a PSC or a brolly the responsibility for the Employers NI is theirs As the employer.

There will be an administration burden, but I don't think it will be material when added to the quantum of everything else we currently have to do!

Maybe i got it wrong but in all the nice scenario flow charts the PS body was paying the employer NI, as they are classed as the employer after all. It might be different when there is an agency involved.

[eek]

Maybe i got it wrong but in all the nice scenario flow charts the PS body was paying the employer NI, as they are classed as the employer after all. It might be different when there is an agency involved.

Nope agency pays employer NI see https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ers-4U-ltd.pdf

[sal]

Nope agency pays employer NI see https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...ers-4U-ltd.pdf

So much for the big 4 adivce then...

I'd tend to agree with this. We have benefit of trade associations, inhouse legal & taxation and big 4 advice. Many others don't.

If we are paying a PSC or a brolly the responsibility for the Employers NI is theirs As the employer.

[BoredBloke]

All of this relates to using a PSC....how likely would it be for agencies to go back to using contractors working as self employed rather than PSC

[sal]

All of this relates to using a PSC....how likely would it be for agencies to go back to using contractors working as self employed rather than PSC

What would be the benefit for the contractor in this case, even more NI?

[malvolio]

All of this relates to using a PSC....how likely would it be for agencies to go back to using contractors working as self employed rather than PSC

Pretty near impossible. There are good legal and commercial reasons why they don't.

[eek]

Pretty near impossible. There are good legal and commercial reasons why they don't.

Let's be clearer there. You can't work through an agency as self employed due to the agency's act 1977 (from memory). That act is why we need to use limited companies and for many years there was little to no tax benefits from doing so - they only came later

[northernladuk]

All of this relates to using a PSC....how likely would it be for agencies to go back to using contractors working as self employed rather than PSC

I thought in that model the self employee has to pay his tax but if he doesn't the agent becomes liable. That means the agency doesn't have control over the action but responsible if it goes wrong. That's too much risk so they will want to do it themselves to control it so still a no in most cases I'd imagine.

Other reasons as well..

Good thread with links on it here..

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...ntractors.html

[LondonManc]

What's a PSC anyway? I thought it was just a box that you didn't tick on a form?