Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[malvolio]

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's a nice distillation of what we do know here. Which is basically a lot of what HMRC have said but bugger all about how it will all work.

The message I'm getting is that HMRC (in fact HMG) have been told repeatedly by several informed bodies that this is a total clusterf**k but they don't seem to be interested in that. Seems that they won't learn until the middle of the year when it's all in place and working - or not, as seems more likely.

[eek]

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it but there's a nice distillation of what we do know here. Which is basically a lot of what HMRC have said but bugger all about how it will all work.

The message I'm getting is that HMRC (in fact HMG) have been told repeatedly by several informed bodies that this is a total clusterf**k but they don't seem to be interested in that. Seems that they won't learn until the middle of the year when it's all in place and working - or not, as seems more likely.

Nope because it only arrived (about 2 weeks too late) on Friday and there was already one that's continually updated at the top of this forum (done by myself with help from various agencies, umbrella companies and accountancy firms).

As for HMRC I'm currently aware of 2 projects within HMRC that are now in utter chaos - people have mentioned them to me due to entertainment factor / irony...

[cojak]

I'm sure they'll update it once they've got the low-down from this sub-forum...

[eek]

I'm sure they'll update it once they've got the low-down from this sub-forum...

Not until I prompt them multiple times to do so due to pressing deadlines based on my experience over there over the past 2 weeks...

Thankfully....

[mudskipper]

Unfortunately, IPSE cannot put out information based on what someone's mate in the pub said.

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Unfortunately, IPSE cannot put out information based on what someone's mate in the pub said.

Still published too late in the day for anyone needing to give 4 weeks notice with 4 week terms time to resign to avoid being caught by the scheme....

As for "mate in pub" - ever thought that may not be the case but used as a way of avoiding revealing my actual sources - and the fact my contacts are more in touch with what's planned than IPSEs? As for evidence:-

Who said this was a done deal in April 2016 and didn't waste time campaigning against it.
Who knew about the loss of the 5% expenses rule prior to the budget...

I do find it remarkable how IPSE seem to be the only people who regard me as a trouble maker - a lot of other people actually work with me and prefer my approach to being the contracting equivalent to Ian Paisley in his No No No or "we are special" modes...

[mudskipper]

I do find it remarkable how IPSE seem to be the only people who regard me as a trouble maker - a lot of other people actually work with me and prefer my approach to being the contracting equivalent to Ian Paisley in his No No No or "we are special" modes...

IPSE do not regard you as anything in particular.

But if you will insist on spreading misinformation (e.g. your insistence that IPSE said there was no chance of retrospection - they categorically did not say that), and make continual posts with the sole purpose of informing everyone how great you are and how rubbish IPSE is, then it's difficult to see how your motives could be interpreted as anything other than troublemaking. Which is a shame, as we're all on the same side, or at least we should be.

[b r]

The message I'm getting is that HMRC (in fact HMG) have been told repeatedly by several informed bodies that this is a total clusterf**k but they don't seem to be interested in that. Seems that they won't learn until the middle of the year when it's all in place and working - or not, as seems more likely.

IMO it'll only dawn on them when suddenly they've to budget for a consultancy doing our jobs, and got to find the extra cash - and that won't be until the back end of the year - so far too late to actually do anything other than increase the costs and plead with the Treasury.

[Neighbour]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/170118 Sign petiton and ask others to

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/170118

The government is making small contractors pay more tax to cut corporation tax for bigger corporate entrepreneurs - the little people lose out again. Google, Amazo - See the governments reason for bumping up dividend tax as listed on a previous petition signed by 58,000 IT contractors.

Need 100,000 to be debated in Parliament
Got 15,913 (this petition got 116 signatures per day but has increased to around 1,000 signatures per day since people started sharing it)

WHAT TO DO - PLEASE
Sign petition, text, email and facebook it and ask anyone to share - they dont have to be a contractors - just eithe British or UK resident. We can achieve this target.

" The Government is committed to supporting entrepreneurs and a fair tax system. Dividend tax reform (THIS MEANS THE TAX INCREASE ON SMALL COMPANIES) allows further cuts in Corporation Tax and reduces the incentives for tax motivated incorporations.(IE BIG COMPANIES WHO CAN AFFORD IT PAY LESS WHILE WE PAY MORE)
Read the response in full https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106525
The Government is fully committed to supporting business and entrepreneurship. As set out at the Summer Budget 2015, the Government believes that one of the best ways to support growth and enterprise in the UK is through lower and more competitive Corporation Tax rates. WHICH MEANS MAKING THE LITTLE PEOPLE WITH SMALL INCOMES PAY FOR THE BIG COMPANIES

[cojak]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/170118

The government is making small contractors pay more tax to cut corporation tax for bigger corporate entrepreneurs - the little people lose out again. Google, Amazo - See the governments reason for bumping up dividend tax as listed on a previous petition signed by 58,000 IT contractors.

Need 100,000 to be debated in Parliament
Got 15,913 (this petition got 116 signatures per day but has increased to around 1,000 signatures per day since people started sharing it)

WHAT TO DO - PLEASE
Sign petition, text, email and facebook it and ask anyone to share - they dont have to be a contractors - just eithe British or UK resident. We can achieve this target.

" The Government is committed to supporting entrepreneurs and a fair tax system. Dividend tax reform (THIS MEANS THE TAX INCREASE ON SMALL COMPANIES) allows further cuts in Corporation Tax and reduces the incentives for tax motivated incorporations.(IE BIG COMPANIES WHO CAN AFFORD IT PAY LESS WHILE WE PAY MORE)
Read the response in full https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106525
The Government is fully committed to supporting business and entrepreneurship. As set out at the Summer Budget 2015, the Government believes that one of the best ways to support growth and enterprise in the UK is through lower and more competitive Corporation Tax rates. WHICH MEANS MAKING THE LITTLE PEOPLE WITH SMALL INCOMES PAY FOR THE BIG COMPANIES

We've already done this, and the general answer was nope...
http://forums.contractoruk.com/publi...-petition.html