Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[northernladuk]

IMO get the best option that suits you. I don't think picking one over the other just to avoid investigation is the right thing to do.

[RonBW]

If switching ps roles to a new ps gig with new ps end client and new agency post-6th April - would you advocate umbrella or not? Saw earlier reference saying umbrella more likely to flag to hmrc than normal psc-agency-client if inside IR35?

If you are going to be inside IR35 then I would use a reputable umbrella rather than my own limited company. There will be some expenses that you can claim via an umbrella that you can't otherwise, and the big advantage is that you can use salary sacrifice to pay into a pension plan via the umbrella - you can't do that with a limited company.

[lucyclarityumbrella]

If you're using a reputable brolly, the likelihood of you being able to claim expenses is pretty much zero!

If you are operating inside IR35 in the public sector, HMRC are technically deeming you as "employed", which means expenses are highly unlikely.

That said if you consider the Supervision, Direction and Control rules then even if they don't deem you under SDC any expenses would have to be processed via self assessment at the end of the financial year, the brolly cannot process them at source.

[rollonfriday]

So I work in the public sector as a contractor and have for a few years with the same organisation. I've now been offered an FTC through my managed service to work in the same public sector organisation.
No one can tell me if it's safe to take that FTC or not.
Surely the IR35 inspectors can't be the only people that know for sure?

Is there anyone/organisation out there i can talk to that will, with confidence, tell me whether it's safe to take the contract, and if it's likely to trigger a back tax bill what the size of that bill would be?
My agency can't tell for sure, my client can't tell for sure, and my own accountant can't even tell for sure. Fed up with the gossip and scaremongering so there has to be someone out that knows this stuff and is offering advice?

[northernladuk]

No there isn't. If there were we wouldn't have all these threads would we. That said.... Reading all that you are exactly what HMRC are after. Is the FTC doing the same thing as you've been doing all these years? If so you look like a big fat juicy target to me.

And if you do get looked at the bill sounds like it's gonna be a doozy.

HTH.

[rollonfriday]

No there isn't. If there were we wouldn't have all these threads would we. That said.... Reading all that you are exactly what HMRC are after. Is the FTC doing the same thing as you've been doing all these years? If so you look like a big fat juicy target to me.

And if you do get looked at the bill sounds like it's gonna be a doozy.

HTH.

Different job title and location but same end client. I've told them I'd consider it if there is a natural break between my current contract ending and my FTC starting, including some time spent in between with a different client.
All really just shuffling the pieces round the board to be honest.

[northernladuk]

Different job title and location but same end client. I've told them I'd consider it if there is a natural break between my current contract ending and my FTC starting, including some time spent in between with a different client.
All really just shuffling the pieces round the board to be honest.

So you've had multiple roles for the same employer over a number of years ..Sounds a bit like a what?

Things are carrying on but now the only difference is you are employed.... Hmmm

[RonBW]

So you've had multiple rolls for the same employer over a number of years ..Sounds a bit like a what?

A bakery?

[northernladuk]

A bakery?

Damn you were fast.

[RonBW]

Damn you were fast.

That's what my girlfriend tells me