HMRC enquiries for EBT schemes through SANZAR

[z4thras]

this appears to be a more mature thread on the subject, so what next, lodge protective order, lodge appeal, wait for response from HM Revenue, are people buying time by playing ping pong or anyone actually been issued with a demand yet ?, thanks.

Put appeal in and wait until they ask for something

[rosso2013]

Template pls

Any chance someone could do the same for me please? I too have just received the letter... thanks in advance

Hi, I have also received the same from HMRC for 09/10 and would like a copy of the template pls if possible.

Many Thanks.

<admin note>I have given you access to the PM system</admin note>

[happychap]

Group Representation

Dear administrator Request for PM rights please!!!!

Are people getting together to fight this?

Group representation seems a good idea i'd rather put my £££'s into fighting rather than just handing it over...

[cojak]

Dear administrator Request for PM rights please!!!!

Are people getting together to fight this?

Group representation seems a good idea i'd rather put my £££'s into fighting rather than just handing it over...

You can find out how to get PM access (and lots of other stuff) here: http://forums.contractoruk.com/hmrc-...ml#post1698051

[z4thras]

You can find out how to get PM access (and lots of other stuff) here: http://forums.contractoruk.com/hmrc-...ml#post1698051

has group representaion been organised by anyone. drop me a PM if they have

Regards

[MrO666]

I'd potentially be interested in a group approach, but I'd want to be very clear about what we were getting for our money. I suspect tax accounting specialists are in the same box as solicitors when it comes to generating huge bills for not a huge amount of work. That's not meant as a criticism towards either accountants or solicitors, just purely pointing out that any defence would soon run into huge money i'm sure.

Also, before agreeing to this I think it would be prudent to actually find out how robust any defence would / could be, after all there would be little point in pouring tens of thousands away if the likelihood of a successful result was 25% for instance.

I'm certainly open to exploring the idea though.

On a side note, has anybody had anything further from HMRC regarding any of the tax years in dispute after appealing ? Seeing as HMRC are so sure they're correct in this, they seem to be taking a very long time doing nothing........unless they're just hoping that the frightened people will pay up and they'll never need to do anything else (unlikely though).

I do find HMRC's approach to everything very menacing. If any other industry attacked people in the same way that HMRC do, then the watchdogs and governing bodies would come down on them straight away. Imagine if your bank started to send you bills saying we can't prove that you owe it, but we want it anyway.........the government would go mad

Like I've said before, I honestly believe that HMRC would get far more if they treated people in a better way instead of demanding money with menaces all the time, after all, HMRC is supposed to be a public service, not judge jury and executioner.

[AngryMan]

I'd potentially be interested in a group approach, but I'd want to be very clear about what we were getting for our money. I suspect tax accounting specialists are in the same box as solicitors when it comes to generating huge bills for not a huge amount of work. That's not meant as a criticism towards either accountants or solicitors, just purely pointing out that any defence would soon run into huge money i'm sure.

Also, before agreeing to this I think it would be prudent to actually find out how robust any defence would / could be, after all there would be little point in pouring tens of thousands away if the likelihood of a successful result was 25% for instance.

I'm certainly open to exploring the idea though.

On a side note, has anybody had anything further from HMRC regarding any of the tax years in dispute after appealing ? Seeing as HMRC are so sure they're correct in this, they seem to be taking a very long time doing nothing........unless they're just hoping that the frightened people will pay up and they'll never need to do anything else (unlikely though).

I do find HMRC's approach to everything very menacing. If any other industry attacked people in the same way that HMRC do, then the watchdogs and governing bodies would come down on them straight away. Imagine if your bank started to send you bills saying we can't prove that you owe it, but we want it anyway.........the government would go mad

Like I've said before, I honestly believe that HMRC would get far more if they treated people in a better way instead of demanding money with menaces all the time, after all, HMRC is supposed to be a public service, not judge jury and executioner.

They would be much more likely to get some money from people I think if they were consultative. If they were to say here is the problem, how do we resolve it - people would much more likely to try and come to a resolution. The legal bills for them in this case are going to be astronomical.

[MrO666]

They would be much more likely to get some money from people I think if they were consultative. If they were to say here is the problem, how do we resolve it - people would much more likely to try and come to a resolution. The legal bills for them in this case are going to be astronomical.

I couldn't agree more.

If they were exactly as you say, they would stand a far far better chance of getting something with far less hassle and costs to boot.

Like a number of government institutions (for want of a better word) they need a top down overhaul.

On a seperate note, imagine if HMRC were to say look, if you guarantee never to use an offshore solution then we'll draw a line under it (or something similiar, a percentage payment perhaps), they would then see offshore usage virtually wiped out in a stroke i'm sure, so they would still get what they want, just in a sensible way.

[AngryMan]

I couldn't agree more.

If they were exactly as you say, they would stand a far far better chance of getting something with far less hassle and costs to boot.

Like a number of government institutions (for want of a better word) they need a top down overhaul.

On a seperate note, imagine if HMRC were to say look, if you guarantee never to use an offshore solution then we'll draw a line under it (or something similiar, a percentage payment perhaps), they would then see offshore usage virtually wiped out in a stroke i'm sure, so they would still get what they want, just in a sensible way.

Yeah good post I totally agree.

If they were to say if you only pay PAYE for the rest of you life and we'll limit the repayment to £10k, I'm sure the vast if not all the contractors would take that.

The net result to HMRC would surely be more (no legal fee's, no people going bankrupt and homeless etc)

The fact is we shouldn't have to pay anything - this was a loan and perfectly legal. They were quite happy to accept my BIK charges...

However, this is deepy stressful and I'd like it to disappear!

[wing73]

Letter Template for response to HMRC

could someone PM me the template to send back to HMRC in response to the 2nd tax year that i have been re-assessed on? Greatly appreciate this.