Crimewatch - Madeleine McCann

[Hairy]

No so jolly dee they have learnt their lesson - I presume that pleases you

What lesson DA?

[d000hg]

Calm down, d000hg. You're rather hysterical there. Suggesting I wouldn't personally do what they did is not quite saying I make every living moment revolve around my child.

No, but this chump is:

Every decision I make, as a parent, has my kids interest at heart. Every, single, one. Not mine. I'd say that was the case for most parents. They didn't. That's the long and the short if it.

But then he also claims letting your child die of MRSA is OK, as long as they aren't kidnapped first, so maybe we should discount his opinion?

[jmo21]

I don't know why you said the exact same thing twice... well if they had stayed in a different resort/hotel it wouldn't have happened. If they had requested a different room it wouldn't have happened. If they hadn't gone on holiday it wouldn't have happened.

Since you were so extremely explicit that any decision you make, as a parent, which can end up with an abduction, isn't a good one the decision to go on holiday clearly isn't a good one.

Woolly.

Going on holiday is not neglect.

Leaving your children in a room asleep, while you go drinking {however far away it was} with friends, is.

It is an extreme case, and the odds are low of a kidnapping happening, but neglect it is.

Most parents wouldn't have done it.

Any that have, then seen this case, are highly likely not to do it again.

[d000hg]

No, rubbish, for they're always with us. Always.

The decision to leave them alone, is a bad one.

Also, you can't say if they left them alone somewhere else, it wouldn't have happened, as it could have happened. I stay with my kids all the time on holiday. I do not leave anywhere they are.

Don't try to change the subject. We're not talking about leaving them alone, we're talking about ANY (and every) DECISION WHICH LEADS TO THEM BEING ABDUCTED.
The abduction of that child was as a result of many decisions culminating in the child a)being left alone b)being in that room. If EITHER of those hadn't happened, things would probably be very different.

Going on holiday is not neglect.

Leaving your children in a room asleep, while you go drinking {however far away it was} with friends, is.

He said it not me. I'm merely pointing out his lax thought process.

[Hairy]

No, but this chump is:


But then he also claims letting your child die of MRSA is OK, as long as they aren't kidnapped first, so maybe we should discount his opinion?

Your stupidity knows no bounds. Like most of your observations thus, you've made tulip up. I do EVERYTHING in my power to protect my kids. Stopping airborne bacteria doesn't come under that remit. However, leaving the doors open on my house and going on the piss is something I can not do, in order to better protect my kids.

They had a choice. They made the wrong one. If this was sally the slut off the estate, we'd be lambasting her for being selfish, feckless and blaming her for the problems she's caused. I remember a thread not so long ago which had a single mother locking her kids in and getting on the piss. You all piled in. At lest she had the intellect to lock the damned doors.

[mudskipper]

James Bulger's mum didn't get this grief.

[Hairy]

Don't try to change the subject. We're not talking about leaving them alone, we're talking about ANY (and every) DECISION WHICH LEADS TO THEM BEING ABDUCTED.
The abduction of that child was as a result of many decisions culminating in the child a)being left alone b)being in that room. If EITHER of those hadn't happened, things would probably be very different.

He said it not me. I'm merely pointing out his lax thought process.

No d000hg, if they had not left her alone, she'd not have been abducted. That's pretty much as far as it goes.

Leaving them in the car and going in a shop could lead to the kids being abducted. We don't do this.

Leaving them in the park next to the pub, and going for a pint, could lead to the kids being abducted. We don't do this.

DO you get the drift yet? Has it sunk in? If they had taken the proper option of staying with their kids, the kid wouldn't have been abducted.

[Hairy]

The decision to go on holiday is always a good one, if you're not selfish, and feckless enough to think leaving them alone is a good idea. If they had said, no, sorry, we can't get a sitter, we'll sit this one out, as most would here, there would be no discussion; I don't see how that can't seem to process with you.

[eek]

James Bulger's mum didn't get this grief.

Yep because everyone can understand a kid wandering away from you as you pay for shopping.

Fewer people can understand leaving your children 300 yards away while you get drunk.....

The question to ask is:-

Would you call social services if you saw each example happen.....

And that is why many people don't like the mccann's because they did something which has led to others losing access to their children while they haven't....

[d000hg]

You do realise that levelling personal insults doesn't actually change any of the facts? Like how you said you don't take special precautions about MRSA "because that's not abduction". And that you said any choice which leads to abduction is a bad one. Which includes deciding to go on holiday... that is a choice they made which directly led to the abduction.

But you seem quite unable to grasp the entire concept, so never mind.