Crimewatch - Madeleine McCann

[MyUserName]

I don't have a position.

Yeah, sure you do.

[Old Greg]

Yeah, sure you do.

What is it?

[MyUserName]

What is it?

Game changed - now we do an answer for an answer. I answered (several of) your question(s), if you want another one answered then you will need to answer mine. Although I reserve the right to answer more if I feel like it.

*whistles*

[Old Greg]

*whistles*

If I don't know what my position is andyou think you do but won't tell me, where does that leave us?

[MyUserName]

If I don't know what my position is andyou think you do but won't tell me, where does that leave us?

(I'll answer that one for free)

It leaves you about to answer the question I put to you earlier about the electric fire ...

[vetran]

I believe there's a test that applies in some bits of the law - something to do with what is reasonably foreseeable. Even considering the popular hysteria, most people wouldn't assume that one or more kids left in those circumstances would be bound to disappear without trace. Statistically such an outcome is beyond remote.

Abduction is indeed unlikely, the child playing with matches, blenders, knives, choking on vomit etc however are very likely and that is why you wouldn't leave young children alone. It is reasonably foreseeable your child could come to harm due to your absence. The type of harm was unusual.

Another analogy that doesn't involve non obvious dangers.

I don't drive the wrong way down the M1 for fear of hitting other cars or getting stopped.

However if a plane decided to land on the M1 while I was going down it and I couldn't avoid it like the other drivers because our combined speed was 270mph not 130mph I would be very unlucky yes but still be bloody stupid.

[Old Greg]

(I'll answer that one for free)

It leaves you about to answer the question I put to you earlier about the electric fire ...

Aha! You answered! What was the question again?

[DodgyAgent]

I would be drastically negligent for leaving my children in the house by themselves with no one to look after them, or comfort them if they had a nightmare, woke up and fell out of bed etc. - my daughter is 4 and my son is 2. They do not get left in the house by themselves, especially just for me to go socialising.

Your turn - would you be responsible or not?


I must be missing something, I cannot understand why you seem to be so aggressive over this. It might be the limitations of the text or something. Can you honestly not understand why I feel the way I do? You must have an opinion yourself even if you choose not to voice it.

What I am establishing here is the legitamcy of you judging the Mcanns. I am trying to understand at what point they crossed the divide and went from being responsible parents to being irresponsible parents. In otherwords where was the fine line at which they were partly responsible or totally responsible for exposing their child to the danger of an abductor.

You are imposing your own standards of legitimacy on other people even though there are no accepted rules or laws to say that your rules are either right or fair. If you do not want to answer the question then tell us what you would have done whilst going on that ill fated holiday. Would you have just stayed in with the kids all night? Done a rota with the wifue or what?

[Old Greg]

What I am establishing here is the legitamcy of you judging the Mcanns. I am trying to understand at what point they crossed the divide and went from being responsible parents to being irresponsible parents. In otherwords where was the fine line at which they were partly responsible or totally responsible for exposing their child to the danger of an abductor.

You are imposing your own standards of legitimacy on other people even though there are no accepted rules or laws to say that your rules are either right or fair. If you do not want to answer the question then tell us what you would have done whilst going on that ill fated holiday. Would you have just stayed in with the kids all night? Done a rota with the wifue or what?

Dodgy, are you judging MyUserName?

[mudskipper]

I would be drastically negligent for leaving my children in the house by themselves with no one to look after them, or comfort them if they had a nightmare, woke up and fell out of bed etc. - my daughter is 4 and my son is 2. They do not get left in the house by themselves, especially just for me to go socialising.

So if you left them in bed to go and help a neighbour across the road who thought they were having a heart attack, would that be equally (drastically) negligent?