Crimewatch - Madeleine McCann

[original PM]

A lot of the bile directed at them has to do with people wanting to be able to get one over on a more successful couple, essentially it is an insecurity of their own parenting and position in society. "yes they may have fantastic jobs and be able to buy them anything but we never left our kids alone for a night" which a lot of people seem to repeat endlessly. It reassures people to see them go through pain and to be able to say they are not going through that to all who will listen.

Yeah not convinced on that - I think it is more how could you leave a 3 year old and 2 younger children on their own whilst you went off to get pissed you ******* selfish *******?

[MaryPoppins]

A lot of the bile directed at them has to do with people wanting to be able to get one over on a more successful couple, essentially it is an insecurity of their own parenting and position in society. "yes they may have fantastic jobs and be able to buy them anything but we never left our kids alone for a night" which a lot of people seem to repeat endlessly. It reassures people to see them go through pain and to be able to say they are not going through that to all who will listen.

Eh? Are you drunk?

It's repeated endlessly because it's a fkcing unthinkable thing to do where most parents are concerned.

[russell]

A lot of the bile directed at them has to do with people wanting to be able to get one over on a more successful couple, essentially it is an insecurity of their own parenting and position in society. "yes they may have fantastic jobs and be able to buy them anything but we never left our kids alone for a night" which a lot of people seem to repeat endlessly. It reassures people to see them go through pain and to be able to say they are not going through that to all who will listen.

No it's because they left their kids alone and went on the piss, end of.

[minestrone]

Eh? Are you drunk?

It's repeated endlessly because it's a fkcing unthinkable thing to do where most parents are concerned.

Whenever or wherever this subject comes up within minutes people will start giving it "oh I would have never done that, how could they" and it is always most vocal by people who don't square up to having the perfect family like they did.

The subject of what people do with there own children is unnecessary to the conversation but it always gets swung that way for a reason. I think it is a more natural reaction to be saying "oh that is terrible" rather than the "it is their own fault"

[d000hg]

They *are* to blame! If they hadn't left her alone then it(whatever "it" is) wouldn't have happened!

If there hadn't been a sicko on the loose, it wouldn't have happened either. Clearly he/she is to blame.

[russell]

If there hadn't been a sicko on the loose, it wouldn't have happened either. Clearly he/she is to blame.

Yes but as a parent you can't control that, you can control whether you leave them alone. Don't you get that? eh?

[MaryPoppins]

Whenever or wherever this subject comes up within minutes people will start giving it "oh I would have never done that, how could they" and it is always most vocal by people who don't square up to having the perfect family like they did.

The subject of what people do with there own children is unnecessary to the conversation but it always gets swung that way for a reason. I think it is a more natural reaction to be saying "oh that is terrible" rather than the "it is their own fault"

You're full of crap.

[cailin maith]

Me. Tons. I should probably be dead by now given some of the stuff I got up to in earlier years.

But not with my son. I have near miss moments - accidents. But I do not choose to put him at risk.

WSS

I'm not patronising you. I'm saying that any suggestion that they "deserved it" or "were to blame" are simply ridiculous. Being bad parents, or being selfish, is absolutely nothing to do with a predator on the hunt for a victim.

They are responsible for some blame.

If there hadn't been a sicko on the loose, it wouldn't have happened either. Clearly he/she is to blame.

But they left the children alone, so the kidnapper is ultimately to blame but, the parents are also responsible for what happened.

[d000hg]

They are supervised at school, there are no places my kids go where I know they are unsupervised, apart from play dates, where there’s a level of trust that they are supervised. No sane person would thinking leaving primary school kids alone whilst you went out on the lash as a good thing. No one. This isn't living your life wrapped in cotton wool, this was a piss poor decision by them.

Which I haven't seen anyone disputing. That's not what we're discussing.

Also, since when is going out to dinner "going on the lash"? I suppose this is just a deliberate attempt to make them out as monsters, slamming shots and probably sporting dozens of tattoos paid for with benefits money, rather than a middle-class couple out for dinner and a drink.

[eek]

What annoys me is that if this was a working class couple the parents would have been done for neglect and their other children taken off them.

Because it was a professional couple with friends that didn't occur.

And one thing that pi**es off most people is double standards....