Crimewatch - Madeleine McCann

[Hairy]

Me. Tons. I should probably be dead by now given some of the stuff I got up to in earlier years.

But not with my son. I have near miss moments - accidents. But I do not choose to put him at risk.

This. 100%. We would not think leaving the kids alone whilst we went out drinking and dancing akin to leaving the door unlocked as I popped to the post office. If we can’t be with the kids, someone responsible is. We don’t take chances. This isn’t like taking your eye off the kid for 30 seconds in a shop (itself a massive mistake), it’s wilfully leaving them alone whilst you go out and socialise.

[SueEllen]

So therefore you need to be as attentive as possible. Or is your argument they will wander away anyway so just let them and hope the first person they come across isn't a paedo?

Of course you don't let them wander - they are more likely to be run over than come across a paedo as they have absolutely no road sense.

[original PM]

Don't patronise me.

I didn't say basing your life around the possibility of kidnappers was what I'd recommend. The idea that they might need me in the night, or hurt themselves, or that the house might burn down [!], would be enough to dissuade me. Along with the fact that when I decided to have a baby, I also opted to put their needs before my own, which is what I believe a half decent parent does.

They decided that going for a meal was more important than their children, and most members of the public struggle with that concept.

completely agree with that kids are number 1 priority allways...

on another note what happened to the investigation that says the McCann's killed Madeline (in a fit of rage apparently) and then hid the body and then started all this off as a cover up?

did that ever get proved/disproved?

[d000hg]

I admit the chances are very slim let's say 1 in a million chance of your child being abducted while you go out for a meal. However what's at risk is so great (my child) I would not be willing to take the chance.

There's a greater chance your kid would be run down crossing the street with you there with them than of this happening though, is my point. Do you let your kids go to school rather than be home schooled?

I'm not saying one should generally leave kids unattended, but that is because they are at risk from themselves when left unattended. You simply don't make decisions based on million-to-one eventualities because you'd never get anything done.

[russell]

completely agree with that kids are number 1 priority allways...

on another note what happened to the investigation that says the McCann's killed Madeline (in a fit of rage apparently) and then hid the body and then started all this off as a cover up?

did that ever get proved/disproved?

Where is the body then? It would have been found by now they had limited time. I think she is alive and was kidnapped to order for some rich couple who wanted a middle class child.

[Churchill]

I'm not patronising you. I'm saying that any suggestion that they "deserved it" or "were to blame" are simply ridiculous. Being bad parents, or being selfish, is absolutely nothing to do with a predator on the hunt for a victim.

They *are* to blame! If they hadn't left her alone then it(whatever "it" is) wouldn't have happened!

[MaryPoppins]

I'm not patronising you. I'm saying that any suggestion that they "deserved it" or "were to blame" are simply ridiculous. Being bad parents, or being selfish, is absolutely nothing to do with a predator on the hunt for a victim.

Yes, as I said in one of my earlier posts.

[original PM]

Where is the body then? It would have been found by now they had limited time. I think she is alive and was kidnapped to order for some rich couple who wanted a middle class child.

Yeah or maybe some kindly nuns are looking after her

be real sonny if she is lucky she is already dead

[minestrone]

A lot of the bile directed at them has to do with people wanting to be able to get one over on a more successful couple, essentially it is an insecurity of their own parenting and position in society. "yes they may have fantastic jobs and be able to buy them anything but we never left our kids alone for a night" which a lot of people seem to repeat endlessly. It reassures people to see them go through pain and to be able to say they are not going through that to all who will listen.

[Hairy]

There's a greater chance your kid would be run down crossing the street with you there with them than of this happening though, is my point. Do you let your kids go to school rather than be home schooled?

I'm not saying one should generally leave kids unattended, but that is because they are at risk from themselves when left unattended. You simply don't make decisions based on million-to-one eventualities because you'd never get anything done.

They are supervised at school, there are no places my kids go where I know they are unsupervised, apart from play dates, where there’s a level of trust that they are supervised. No sane person would thinking leaving primary school kids alone whilst you went out on the lash as a good thing. No one. This isn't living your life wrapped in cotton wool, this was a piss poor decision by them.

We get lots done.