Crimewatch - Madeleine McCann

[MyUserName]

I am sorry but they are not different in terms of who is responsible for the crime. You are apportioning blame on the parents for "encouraging" someone to steal their child by leaving the gate open. What is the difference between that and a girl wearing skimpy clothes and "encouraging" a man to rape her. Both scenarios show a lack of responsibility from the victim.

But the parents are not the victims - the child was.

A fairer comparison would be if your girlfriend was drunk and passed out. If you leave her lying in a side street when you went back to the pub for a few more drinks and she was raped whilst still helpless, would you be blameless?

[DodgyAgent]

I'm still convinced the McCanns drugged her but miscalculated the dose.

Funnily enough the "there is more to it than meets the eye" conspiracy theory is the prevalent view in the dodgy household

[d000hg]

Oh FFS.

I'm out of this conversation, I'm pretty sure you couldn't be more of an ass about this.

Hmm, rather than leave the conversation you have to tell everyone you're leaving. How apt.

[DodgyAgent]

But the parents are not the victims - the child was.

A fairer comparison would be if your girlfriend was drunk and passed out. If you leave her lying in a side street when you went back to the pub for a few more drinks and she was raped whilst still helpless, would you be blameless?

The parents are the victims just as much as the child is. They are the ones that are hurt by this.

[Mich the Tester]

I sometimes change junior's nappies, Porton Down are the recipients!

Yes, they're very good at Porton Down; I believe their advanced level training programme made use of several post-Africa Testerturds as educational material for their Rift Valley Fever specialists. Pater Tester's turds are even being considered for the Ebola research group, and Grandfather Tester's Burmese Malarial turds ensured Britain had a great strategic advantage in the post war biological warfare theatre.

I'm proud that my family have contributed so much to this field of work.

[MyUserName]

The parents are the victims just as much as the child is. They are the ones that are hurt by this.

So would you be blameless in that scenario or not?

[MaryPoppins]

You force your kid to watch you take a tulip? What kind of pervert are you? Do you make them come in the bedroom when you're getting jiggy too?

I'm so sorry, clearly if it was a lunchtime kidnapping it would be a whole different story.

I think I agree with CM. You're being a bit of an ass.

When my son was smaller and playing, he'd have to come with me to the loo whether he liked it nor not. Most people with kids have at some point or another bemoaned the lack of any privacy at all!

But I think you know that. You're just trying to make us out to be mollycoddling twats.

[Hairy]

Hmm, rather than leave the conversation you have to tell everyone you're leaving. How apt.

No, she’s left the conversation as you’re being an arse.

If they had stayed, the kid would be with them. They chose to leave and left a 4 yo and twin 2 yo’s in an unlocked apartment and went out for a few hours. If they had not chosen to do this, the kid would still be there, and would not have been kidnapped.

To blame anyone else than themselves, is absurd; they were selfish and chose a night out for themselves rather than to stay in and look after the kids. The only thing I am surprised about, is that social services weren’t involved for the other two kids, for they completely and utterly rode roughshod over Madeline’s rights as their child, ad a vulnerable infant. They chose these actions, them, no one else. I feel for them, but they are the architects of their own situation unfortunately, and that is a fact.

[oracleslave]

I have had 2 occasions with my kids that I would consider "near misses". The first of these was on holiday in Greece, eldest daughter was about 4 at the time and we were walking the path up to the Acropolis with all the other tourists visiting for the day. Daughter was 4 at the time and walking and one moment we could see her and the next we couldn't. She disappeared from view for about the longest 90 seconds of my life and I pushed through a fair number of indignant tourists before I got to her again.

Second occasion was camping in the New Forest. She made friends with some older kids and in the course of playing hide and seek, she got lost in the campsite. I tore through the place and found her after about 8 minutes once I realised she was no longer with the kids we'd last seen her with and found her in tears with another family.

Very grateful that none of these turned into a M Mcann story and remain paranoid about my kids safety and whereabouts.

[Churchill]

I think I agree with CM. You're being a bit of an ass.

When my son was smaller and playing, he'd have to come with me to the loo whether he liked it nor not. Most people with kids have at some point or another bemoaned the lack of any privacy at all!

But I think you know that. You're just trying to make us out to be mollycoddling twats.

I don't think you're mollycoddling!