Outsourcing to India

[xoggoth]

Perhaps the honest truth is that Britain was only good at exploiting "lesser" countries

Ah yes, what was the industrial revolution in the scheme of things?

[Paddy]

Government and legislation have not kept up with technology. In reality, using an outsoared service is really and import and should be taxed as such just and UK goods are taxed when sent India.

[sasguru]

Yes. As the Chinese government does rather sensibly. Does it occur to you that the world's currently most successful economy is one that is very carefully controlled in the interests of its nation? Total economic laissez-faire is almost as damaging as excessive government micromanagement. Not to human society as a whole perhaps but to individual nations.

The purpose of any goverment should be to serve the interests of their own people, not global society.

UItter nonsense. Ask the average Chinese whether he wouldn't swap with the poor, impoverished countires of the West.
If you class success as mind-numbing assembly of products in factories then I suggest you emigrate there.
China's growth rate is the result of (1) starting from a low base (2) low-pay (3) having vast armies of people happy to do boring stuff.
Yes that translates into cash but its the equivalent of being a SAP person in IT: loads of money, dull work.

[sasguru]

Ah yes, what was the industrial revolution in the scheme of things?

People complained about that when it was happening just as you are complaining about the post-industrial revolution that is now happening.
It did give Britain a temporary advantage, but it turned out other countries were better at manufucturing quality* than we were.

*certain extant manufaucturing centres of excellence notwithstanding

[Pondlife]

a SAP person in IT: loads of money, dull work.

Ok, I'll give you a half mark for that. You need to get both points right in the future though.

[xoggoth]

As they still have a long way to go, many poorer Chinese would like to swap with life in the West (as illegal immigration demonstrates) but such feelings are not logical guides to policy that best serves the long term interests of the Chinese. Concentrate on facts.

The Chinese economy is subject to a great deal of control at every level which have specific policy aims of improving the long term prosperity of the Chinese people. The Chinese do not invite tenders from around the world and hand major contracts to the highest bidders, they do not outsource to India/wherever purely on a cost per project basis and neither do they open their doors to floods of cheap migrants. We in the West do all these things. Their economy is powering ahead, ours are declining. Coincidence?

There is far more to China's growth rate than a lot of low paid labour. Many third world countries have a lot of even cheaper people who would jump at the chance of any job but we don't see them powering ahead. China's growth is also about sound policy that makes China the priority.

[sasguru]

As they still have a long way to go, many poorer Chinese would like to swap with life in the West (as illegal immigration demonstrates) but such feelings are not logical guides to policy that best serves the long term interests of the Chinese. Concentrate on facts.

The Chinese economy is subject to a great deal of control at every level which have specific policy aims of improving the long term prosperity of the Chinese people. The Chinese do not invite tenders from around the world and hand major contracts to the highest bidders, they do not outsource to India/wherever purely on a cost per project basis and neither do they open their doors to floods of cheap migrants. We in the West do all these things. Their economy is powering ahead, ours are declining. Coincidence?

There is far more to China's growth rate than a lot of low paid labour. Many third world countries have a lot of even cheaper people who would jump at the chance of any job but we don't see them powering ahead. China's growth is also about sound policy that makes China the priority.

In the section I have bolded above, replace China with the Soviet Union. And think what happened to them.
If China is powering ahead it's because of its private sector not the state-run parts.
HTH

PS Personally Xog, I'm inclined to to think you're going senile as your analytic powers are failing you badly

[AtW]

If China is powering ahead it's because of its private sector not the state-run parts.

China is powering ahead because the West is too short sighted and gives away jobs, technology and ultimately its future.

HTH

[sasguru]

China is powering ahead because the West is too short sighted and gives away jobs, technology and ultimately its future.

HTH

Really? Has patent law been abolished then?

[eek]

China is powering ahead because the West is too short sighted and gives away jobs, technology and ultimately its future.

HTH

China is powering ahead because they are following the model originally created by Japanese from 1947 onwards.