Outsourcing to India

[PatriotMan]

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No I outsource people.

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Why dont you outsource yourself then maybe you wil have a better appreciation. :-)

[eek]

This may not impact you now but it may have an indirect impact in the future, you're just clueless aren't you. You probably had a silver spoon shoved in your mouth at a young age.

Before I add you to my ignore list for being an ignorant waste of space I'll fix the above for you.

While the average Indian may not get context and understand particular local peculiarities at least they know how to run spelling and grammar checkers.

The internet now means that the world will continue to be outsourced. The very low level work which original went to India and China has already moved elsewhere as they move up the food chain and that will continue forever more or at least for the next 100 years.

You need to work out how to live in this new world and its not by closing your mind and dreaming / fighting / ranting for something that will never occur.

[cojak]

Things are rarely as good or as bad as they first appear.

Nanny always used to say...

[Clippy]

The guy's a wind up merchant:

We've had quite a few on here lately.

Indeed - which is why the suggestion of minimum posting levels is a good one.

[eek]

Why dont you outsource yourself then maybe you wil have a better appreciation. :-)

Actually that's a good idea. You may notice that I suggested just that earlier in this thread. While I said I need to have daily contact with the client it doesn't mean it has to be me doing that contact.

[cojak]

The current 5 posts may not be enough.

[PatriotMan]

Before I add you to my ignore list for being an ignorant waste of space I'll fix the above for you.

While the average Indian may not get context and understand particular local peculiarities at least they know how to run spelling and grammar checkers.

The internet now means that the world will continue to be outsourced. The very low level work which original went to India and China has already moved elsewhere as they move up the food chain and that will continue forever more or at least for the next 100 years.

You need to work out how to live in this new world and its not by closing your mind and dreaming / fighting / ranting for something that will never occur.

Hahah what a t@##er

[PatriotMan]

eek it says you are professional and courteous?

[Cr1spy]

I've been made redundant due to outsourcing and it sucked. The permie role was with a large legal company and after 5 years the entire dev team [that I helped build] was outsourced, practically overnight. At the time I felt a great deal of resentment to the firm*.

A condition of my redundancy pay out was that I had to spend a next year teaching the Indian developers what to do (read as "how to code" even though they had CV's that read like an agents wet dream). And you know what, to a fault they all worked hard and were great guys 'n girls. But they all lacked a vital skill. Innovation. And the ability to say "no" to any question, but that's a cultural thing.

If I wrote them a script, the work got done. If I asked them to innovate, nothing happened. This was true in all cases, not one of the 20 or so I worked with could take an idea and run with it. I don't know why exactly, maybe (like not saying "no") it's a cultural thing.

As someone else in this thread mentioned, if your job consists of following script or prescriptive spec and banging out lines of code, your days are numbered.

If you're a true professional that aspires to do the best job possible, who isn't afraid to take charge and get things done, you're going to be quid’s in. Firms will always need professional to help with the steaming pile that an outsource solution lands them with.

Whoops! I forgot, I'm new and don't have enough posts to qualify. [Insert newbie text here that annoys entire forum]

* I've actually grown up a lot since then and see that what we did was easy to outsource because it was simple work. The firm just want a reduction in expense.

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[PatriotMan]

I've been made redundant due to outsourcing and it sucked. The permie role was with a large legal company and after 5 years the entire dev team [that I helped build] was outsourced, practically over night. At the time I felt a great deal of resentment to the firm*.

A condition of my redundancy pay out was that I had to spend a next year teaching the Indian developers what to do (read as "how to code" even though they had CV's that read like an agents wet dream). And you know what, to a fault they all worked hard and were great guys 'n girls. But they all lacked a vital skill. Inovation. And the ability to say "no" to any question, but that's a cultral thing.

If I wrote them a script, the work got done. If I asked them to inovate, nothing happened. This was true in all cases, not one of the 20 or so I worked with could take an idea and run with it. I don't know why exactly, maybe (like not saying "no") it's a cutral thing.

As someone else in this thread mentioned, if your job consists of following script or prescriptive spec and banging out lines of code, your days are numbered.

If you're a true professional that aspires to do the best job possible, who isn't afraid to take charge and get things done, you're going to be quids in. Firms will always need professional to help with the steaming pile that an outsource solution lands them with.

Woops! I forgot, I'm new and don't have enough posts to qualify. [Insert newbie text here that annoys entire forum]

* I've actually grown up a lot since then and see that what we did was easy to outsource because it was simple work. The firm just want a reduction in expense.

Great post!!