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Lauren Booth - convert to islam

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    #51
    Originally posted by Spacecadet View Post
    Do tell, how does being Spanish and Jewish prevent you from being an islamophobic racist?
    History, of course. Being on the receiving end of it is in your blood & you know what it's like so you don't dish it out. That's the racism part. As for Islamophobia? Well a phobia is an irrational fear. My apprehensions regarding Islam are hardly irrational. If I were to walk the streets of the district that is obviously home to our friend who posted the video and announce that I was Jewish I doubt I'd get out alive. (perhaps a little east of there)
    Last edited by pacharan; 4 January 2011, 22:03.

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      #52
      I don't quite see that either but why not address the much more relevant point he makes TL? Which is the previous paragraph.

      I'm not getting at you really as you don't normally, but I do notice this over and over again on this board, people make a point, especially if they back it up with any actual evidence or cite actual experience and it gets ignored. Instead there is just abuse or a siezure on some trivial point of language or a spelling mistake. People who do IT for a living should be better than this.
      Last edited by xoggoth; 4 January 2011, 22:16.
      bloggoth

      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
      John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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        #53
        Originally posted by pacharan View Post
        History, of course. Being on the receiving end of it is in your blood & you know what it's like so you don't dish it out. That's the racism part. As for Islamophobia? Well a phobia is an irrational fear. My apprehensions regarding Islam are hardly irrational. If I were to walk the streets of the district that is obviously home to our friend who posted the video and announce that I was Jewish I doubt I'd get out alive. (perhaps a little east of there)
        <cough> Israel </cough>

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          #54
          I keep wondering what that dinosaur will do on the next change.
          bloggoth

          If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
          John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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            #55
            Originally posted by pacharan View Post
            ...If I were to walk the streets of the district that is obviously home to our friend who posted the video and announce that I was Jewish I doubt I'd get out alive. (perhaps a little east of there)
            During the Spanish Inquisition wasn't it your forefathers who fled and sought sanctuary in the north African Maghrib? Were they outed and slaughtered as you suggest might happen to you should you walk the streets of London? Ofcourse not, they still have large communities who live in peace and for your information shariah law was far more prevalent then than it is now. Go learn your own history and you might learn to appreciate the level of tolerance that was meted out to your co-religionists.

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              #56
              That was them Catholics.

              I was joking about the Inquisition...
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #57
                Here we go again, Islamic tolerance proved by reference to a highly airbrushed (ignoring two major massacres and a mass expulsion of Jews, not to mention 5 centuries of decimation of the European coastline by Barbary pirates) history of dark/middle ages in Spain and North Africa .

                Sure Christianity used to suck, may even have been worse, but those of us without time machines think that it's today that matters. Giving examples of the tolerance of modern Islamic societies is rather more relevant, why don't people do that? I'll start. There's Oman and er erm er Oman. Oman, did I mention that one? Even the best of the rest (probably Algeria) has significant issues on rights of women and non Muslims. The latter are officially excluded from the presidency and, in practice, any significant government role at all.
                Last edited by xoggoth; 4 January 2011, 22:52.
                bloggoth

                If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                  Here we go again, Islamic tolerance proved by reference to a highly airbrushed (ignoring two major massacres and a mass expulsion of Jews, not to mention 5 centuries of decimation of the European coastline by Barbary pirates) history of dark/middle ages in Spain and North Africa .

                  Sure Christianity used to suck, may even have been worse, but those of us without time machines think that it's today that matters. Giving examples of the tolerance of modern Islamic societies is rather more relevant, why don't people do that? I'll start. There's Oman and er erm er Oman. Oman, did I mention that one? Even the best of the rest (probably Algeria) has significant issues on rights of women and non Muslims. The latter are officially excluded from the presidency and, in practice, any significant government role at all.
                  Malaysia?
                  Usually forgotten of when people think of Muslim states
                  Coffee's for closers

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by pacharan View Post
                    History, of course. Being on the receiving end of it is in your blood & you know what it's like so you don't dish it out. That's the racism part. As for Islamophobia? Well a phobia is an irrational fear. My apprehensions regarding Islam are hardly irrational. If I were to walk the streets of the district that is obviously home to our friend who posted the video and announce that I was Jewish I doubt I'd get out alive. (perhaps a little east of there)
                    Yeah, right, more pure Bollocks....Did you not not notice that you contradicted yourself?
                    McCoy: "Medical men are trained in logic."
                    Spock: "Trained? Judging from you, I would have guessed it was trial and error."

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                      #60
                      Malaysia? Nope. Criminal charge to leave Islam or for other religions to attempt to convert Muslims, or to belong to Arqam (a heretic Muslim sect), difficult in practice to build non Muslim places of worship, lack of equality in family law like divorce or child custody.
                      Last edited by xoggoth; 5 January 2011, 09:45.
                      bloggoth

                      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                      John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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