Is there anything more weak-minded and meaningless than having "faith"?

[kandr]

And to what doctrine & rules to base your life Kandr? The ridicule of religion is to to ridicule your own worthless beliefs? I am interested in what you hold dear and how you gauge what is 'right' and what is 'wrong'?

I treat people with respect and try not to hurt people in anyway. Religion can't claim to have invented morality, if so which religion? The Greeks seemed to be civilised but they came before Moses and the ten commandments.

[kandr]

I find the implication of correlation between faith and rapists a little offensive.

Not enough to call him a ******* idiot cockdocker, but offensive nonetheless.

Sorry, that was wrong of me, there is also murder, torture, genocide etc.

BTW I am going by what has been written in history, rather than most of the fluff here of "charity" and religion gave us morality.

[Moscow Mule]

I treat people with respect and try not to hurt people in anyway.

What utter bollocks!

You've posted less than 15 minutes ago that you go out of you way to ridicule people of faith.

[MarillionFan]

I treat people with respect and try not to hurt people in anyway. Religion can't claim to have invented morality, if so which religion? The Greeks seemed to be civilised but they came before Moses and the ten commandments.

But where does this morality come from Kandr. Where does this respect come from?

By nature, children and humans are intrinically selfish and self centred. You only only have to look at a toddler to see that. Feed me, want this know, mine mine.

It is moral guidance that teaches children to become better adults in most cases. Where there is no guidance, where there are morals you are left with the feral proles that grow up to stab and rape each other in the worse sink estates in the UK? So, is that your background or did something else happen to draw you along the 'straight and narrow'?

[d000hg]

All charity has it's roots in religion of some kind.

I see no reason that's true. There are charities set up to defend atheistic causes. Maybe you mean the whole concept of charity?

I was thinking more of Priests, but I am sure you will offer another illogical, irrelevant reason to defend them.

So to clarify, you think most rapes are done by priests? I assume therefore the majority of all rapes are on young boys by priests? You must have had such a weird upbringing.

[kandr]

What utter bollocks!

You've posted less than 15 minutes ago that you go out of you way to ridicule people of faith.

I don't respect people who base their life on beliefs that have as much evidence as Santa. If I met an adult who said he still believed in Santa I would ridicule that. Religion/Faith is no different than that.

[d000hg]

The Greeks seemed to be civilised but they came before Moses and the ten commandments.

Wasn't it the Greeks who considered it socially acceptable for a man to have a young boy as some weird sex-servant?

Also, according to Wikipedia, Ancient Greece began 800BC and the first real Greeks were only as far back as 2000BC, at most. Still a long, long, way after Moses.

You're really running on empty now aren't you... not even pretending to make sense?

[Moscow Mule]

I see no reason that's true. There are charities set up to defend atheistic causes. Maybe you mean the whole concept of charity?

Exactly, charity comes from empathy and "love" for fellow man which is a major tenet of most of the big religions.

[Moscow Mule]

I don't respect people who base their life on beliefs that have as much evidence as Santa. If I met an adult who said he still believed in Santa I would ridicule that. Religion/Faith is no different than that.

So you don't treat people with respect.

[d000hg]

Exactly, charity comes from empathy and "love" for fellow man which is a major tenet of most of the big religions.

I don't think a religion can be credited with inventing it. Either it's from God, or man invented it... if there's no God religions are just bunches of people.