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    #71
    Aaaah those awful dilemnas of relative youth. But don't it make ya feel ALIVE?? There will come a time when the only conflict is down to the wife buying Cornflakes when you wanted Shredded Wheat.
    bloggoth

    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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      #72
      Xoggy she does that to you as well?how can a woman get that old and still not understand that a real man likes shredded wheat?
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #73
        Originally posted by cojak View Post


        I always end up winning the argument with that and the champagne tactic (with Mr Cojak, not Mr WA, obv...)
        I wish someone would teach Mrs Zorba that. She wins by using the big wine bottle tactic

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          #74
          Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
          Depending on how you are shutting down the database, it will wait for jobs to finish before it closes completely, although new connections will be forbidden.

          I worked for a client where they couldn't shut down cleanly because they had code running which was doing a blocking dequeue, which was always listening. Without putting a break point in, or enqueuing a stop message, the system never got to a point where you could shutdown cleanly.

          Shutdown abort will always do it though
          Agreed. Shutdown abort is not some sort of "Oh my God, we're risking the DB... better get our CVs ready!" thing: just means that all sessions are suddenly terminated, and the DB then shuts down. When you start it up, again, it'll eventually put everything right. Ah! The majesty of Oracle!

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            #75
            Originally posted by DBA_bloke View Post
            Agreed. Shutdown abort is not some sort of "Oh my God, we're risking the DB... better get our CVs ready!" thing: just means that all sessions are suddenly terminated, and the DB then shuts down. When you start it up, again, it'll eventually put everything right. Ah! The majesty of Oracle!
            No wonder it's soooooooo slooooooooow.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Churchill View Post
              No wonder it's soooooooo slooooooooow.
              It's only as slow as the combined rollbacks needed. If Fred had run a gigantic update, and then the DB was shutdown with abort befoer Fred's transaction had been committed, then, when the DB is started-up again, it will redo everything that was in-progress at the time of the shutdown, and then rollback anything that was not actually committed at the time of the shutdown. Ah! The majesty of Oracle... again!

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                #77
                Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
                Don't take her to Morcambe. It's sh1t
                Oi.............. don't you have a pop at Morecambe, ....................... that's my job!
                I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                The original point and click interface by
                Smith and Wesson.

                Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                  Oi.............. don't you have a pop at Morecambe, ....................... that's my job!
                  Morecambe's on the up.

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                    #79
                    I used to put Morcambe on my job applications when leaving uni - in the section which asked if there was anywhere in the world where you would not work. So not the middle east, Northern Ireland (it was bad back then) or any tin pot little overthrow the government because the price of fish has risen - Morcambe!
                    Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

                    I preferred version 1!

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
                      I used to put Morcambe on my job applications when leaving uni - in the section which asked if there was anywhere in the world where you would not work. So not the middle east, Northern Ireland (it was bad back then) or any tin pot little overthrow the government because the price of fish has risen - Morcambe!
                      and you could at least spell it properly.
                      Just what have you got against my home?
                      I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                      The original point and click interface by
                      Smith and Wesson.

                      Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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