Electric car charging prices

[tazdevil]

really?

We generate ~3500kWh per year on average and use ~3100 kWh per year on top of that. Currently getting 71.85p/kWh generated and 5.07p/kWh export so we've been getting ~£2.6K per year from FITS and with our current consumption costing less than £900/year it leaves a lot of profit. Granted you'll not get those FITS rates now but the economics still work

[DoctorStrangelove]

Yep, this concurs with what I've read. 20 years/200,000 miles battery life is realistic. Apparently, Tesla are aiming for 1,000,000 miles.

The one the Chief Autist launched into space has undoubtedly done that by now..

[sadkingbilly]

We generate ~3500kWh per year on average and use ~3100 kWh per year on top of that. Currently getting 71.85p/kWh generated and 5.07p/kWh export so we've been getting ~£2.6K per year from FITS and with our current consumption costing less than £900/year it leaves a lot of profit. Granted you'll not get those FITS rates now but the economics still work

I was expressing surprise at the use of aircon in north yorkshire (as could clearly be seen in the emboldened text in the quoted post)

geez, nosensayuma, yorkie's.

[tazdevil]

I was expressing surprise at the use of aircon in north yorkshire (as could clearly be seen in the emboldened text in the quoted post)

geez, nosensayuma, yorkie's.

Yes but the actually figures are useful to put the solar PV thing into context. Anyway aircon is essential with my development box churning away for 8+ hours a day in a south facing office and even in NY we get sunny summer days. I probably use the aircon a few weeks a year and when its used its needed, its also useful to quickly cool down after gardening duties

[b0redom]

EVs don't seem to make financial sense at the moment, unless you do high mileage and can charge from home on a low tariff.

Purchase price is much higher than similar ICE (therefore more ££££ lost each year in depreciation). Public charging is about the same per mile, if not more, than petrol. Insurance is considerably higher. Even the road tax advantage seems to be largely disappearing from next year.

Have you actually looked into any of this, or are you just parroting what you’ve read on the internet?

Public charging is, at most l, equivalent to petrol. I actually went with a Tesla in the end. I’ve been charged 30-40p at Tesla superchargers (even on motorways), ~ 45p using IONITY chargers and ~90p at a random one.

So a full ‘tank’ is between 30 and 90 quid. If you fill up at home the price drops to around £8 for a fill up. Driving normally ie motorway miles with aircon etc on I reckon I get 225-250 miles from a fill up.

Fully comp insurance was ~ £400 on the galaxy I had and ~ £750 for the model x. The model
x is substantially more powerful than the Galaxy like 460bhp vs 200bhp.

re buying, its not THAT different. A newish (2021) galaxy was over 30k. I bought a 2019 model x for mid 30s, but I bought it through my company so no tax to pay on the purchase price.

The only downside I’ve found so far is that it takes a while to charge, even on superchargers, the charge rate drops as the battery fills up. Tesla satnav also seems quite happy to deposit you home with 10% or less battery, so I assume they expect you to charge at home.

It’s not for everyone, but more of what you’ve typed above is just FUD.

[Zigenare]

Have you actually looked into any of this, or are you just parroting what you’ve read on the internet?

Public charging is, at most l, equivalent to petrol. I actually went with a Tesla in the end. I’ve been charged 30-40p at Tesla superchargers (even on motorways), ~ 45p using IONITY chargers and ~90p at a random one.

So a full ‘tank’ is between 30 and 90 quid. If you fill up at home the price drops to around £8 for a fill up. Driving normally ie motorway miles with aircon etc on I reckon I get 225-250 miles from a fill up.

Fully comp insurance was ~ £400 on the galaxy I had and ~ £750 for the model x. The model
x is substantially more powerful than the Galaxy like 460bhp vs 200bhp.

re buying, its not THAT different. A newish (2021) galaxy was over 30k. I bought a 2019 model x for mid 30s, but I bought it through my company so no tax to pay on the purchase price.

The only downside I’ve found so far is that it takes a while to charge, even on superchargers, the charge rate drops as the battery fills up. Tesla satnav also seems quite happy to deposit you home with 10% or less battery, so I assume they expect you to charge at home.

It’s not for everyone, but more of what you’ve typed above is just FUD.

I can fill up my Jag XJ and have ~650 mile range. Yes it costs me £1.50 per litre but given I'm getting ~11.4 miles per litre or 13p per mile with zero range anxiety I'll stick with my Jaaaaaag!

[woody1]

Have you actually looked into any of this, or are you just parroting what you’ve read on the internet?

The latter.

It’s not for everyone, but more of what you’ve typed above is just FUD.

That's actually good to hear. I had a quick look on autotrader, and the gap between used EV and ICE does seem to have narrowed a lot.

BTW, the hike in insurance might have been partly due to trading up to a higher value car. I got a quote from my insurance company to replace my car with a much newer but virtually identical model (same IG), and it was over twice the annual premium.

[b0redom]

I can fill up my Jag XJ and have ~650 mile range. Yes it costs me £1.50 per litre but given I'm getting ~11.4 miles per litre or 13p per mile with zero range anxiety I'll stick with my Jaaaaaag!

Good for you. Like I said it's not for everyone. The model X meets my needs for the moment - when it finally goes the way of the dodo. I'll see what the best fit is then. Even if the range drops 50% to ~ 150 miles, it's going to be fine for the epic school run I have to do, and presumably if it only holds 100 miles of charge, it only costs 50% of the cost to fill it up.

[b0redom]

The latter.



That's actually good to hear. I had a quick look on autotrader, and the gap between used EV and ICE does seem to have narrowed a lot.

BTW, the hike in insurance might have been partly due to trading up to a higher value car. I got a quote from my insurance company to replace my car with a much newer but virtually identical model (same IG), and it was over twice the annual premium.

Yeah, I'd not consider buying a new one outright, if I was outside and didn't have a lot of retained profit in my Ltd, I might have considered a lease. Telsa were offering 0% and 15000 miles of supercharging on a Model Y, but the prices of them new.

Second hand, if you're prepared to wait for what you want, seem to be approaching parity with ICE.

As for FSD - I am NOT sold at all. Pretty sure if I left it to it's own devices it would try and drive me into a wall. Adaptive cruise control works OK though, but I guess that's standard even on ICE cars now.

[milanbenes]

why would anyone buy an electric car ?

Milan.