Our modem world...

[malvolio]

Why? the west is supporting the Ukrainians to the hilt. The Russian mercenaries do commit a bit of Gang rape and chopping up babies like the Hamas scum but its mostly isolated incidents.

Well Iron Dome cost billions and has massively minimised Palestinian civilian casualties. Name another besieged country that has done that.

As suggested if Israel returned fire from the rockets thanks to Hamas' practice of using civilians as human sacrifices the casualty numbers would be horrific.

The Israelis have tanks and fighter bombers they are clearing a country run by a terrorist organisation technically they could just flatten it. Sorry that is exactly what we did with the Falklands, Iraq and Afghanistan what are the US going to say if Israel "bomb the filthy terrorists back to the stone age" lets call it "operation Gaza enduring freedom".

When can you get it into your head that Hamas want to kill every Jew? Israel has tried for peace again & again.

The west need to tell Hamas to do one and the Palestinians to work with Israel for peace. The louder they do, the sooner we will have peace.

The Falklands?? Extremely bad example.

Iraq was a mess because Bush and Blair didn't bother with what happened after the WMDs were destroyed (erm...).

Afghanistan will never be conquered by anyone. Far too tribal - one mistake is treating it as a single country when it is a series of well armed fiefdoms.

[WTFH]

Israel has tried for peace again & again.

Peace at the end of a gun is not peace.
Taking land to burn olive trees so that it can have new houses built on it is not trying for peace, but is inciting violence.

I believe that many Israelis and many Palestinians would like to live in peace. I do not believe that Netanyahu's definition of peace is perhaps as even-handed as those who are interested in actual peace.
Until Netanyahu's followers are prepared to accept that you can't group everyone (e.g. "all Palestinians" or "all Israelis") to excuse your actions, then it's not going everywhere. And in the same way, there is a big difference between Israelis and Jews. Israelis are people living in Israel, it's not a religion. It's possible to disagree with Netanyahu, while not being anti-semitic. All you have to see is that Netanyahu is not king of the Jews.

[vetran]

The Falklands?? Extremely bad example.

Iraq was a mess because Bush and Blair didn't bother with what happened after the WMDs were destroyed (erm...).

Afghanistan will never be conquered by anyone. Far too tribal - one mistake is treating it as a single country when it is a series of well armed fiefdoms.

Its a good example because our actions were swift & brutal and in accordance with international law.

The UK & US bombed many places back to the stone age so could say little if Israel did it.

[vetran]

Peace at the end of a gun is not peace.
Taking land to burn olive trees so that it can have new houses built on it is not trying for peace, but is inciting violence.

I believe that many Israelis and many Palestinians would like to live in peace. I do not believe that Netanyahu's definition of peace is perhaps as even-handed as those who are interested in actual peace.
Until Netanyahu's followers are prepared to accept that you can't group everyone (e.g. "all Palestinians" or "all Israelis") to excuse your actions, then it's not going everywhere. And in the same way, there is a big difference between Israelis and Jews. Israelis are people living in Israel, it's not a religion. It's possible to disagree with Netanyahu, while not being anti-semitic. All you have to see is that Netanyahu is not king of the Jews.

I blame Hamas and by extension the Palestinians that elected this terrorist organisation to actively send rockets against civilian Israeli targets daily for years. Your best challenge is a few burnt olive trees, who has the gun and who is using it in this case?

If all Palestinians put down their guns today how many and who would die or be imprisoned?

If all Israelis put down their guns today how many would and who die?

History has shown Israel go to the table repeatedly and make concessions. The majority of Israelis have clearly shown they want peace.

No Netanyahu is not a dove, no one is likely to be after the provocation the Israelis have suffered. Lebanon & Syria are also attacking. Should he surrender or deal with the terrorists actively murdering his people?

I suspect if we can convince the Arabs to negotiate peace it would be welcomed by the majority of Jews and Netanyahu would hold his nose and at least bless the process just as Maggie & the Queen did. I am not sure I would believe in a two state solution if one of the states bombed my country daily YMMV.

We need to drive out the terrorists and support peace. Hint one side really doesn't want peace which side is that?

[northernladuk]

[vetran]

ah yes Zyxel like watching the clangers in the bottom of a coms cabinet. That is a nice young one though! Ours were 56k & covered in dust & dirt especially in government departments.

[ladymuck]

There is actually a Modem World: https://modemworld.me/ Sort of, it's actually about Second Life (does that still exist?)

[SueEllen]

There is actually a Modem World: https://modemworld.me/ Sort of, it's actually about Second Life (does that still exist?)

yep

https://secondlife.com/

[WTFH]

We need to drive out the terrorists and support peace. Hint one side really doesn't want peace which side is that?

That would be the Daily Mail.

As I said, until you can make the break from "All X are Y", you'll never get peace.

The majority of people who voted in the Brexit referendum voted for us to leave the EU. That does not mean every single person in the UK is a far right racist criminal, or even all Brexit voters are far right racist criminals, some might be, but I wouldn't tar all Brexit voters with the same brush.

As long as you keep grouping people together and deciding in your head what they all think, there's no hope for you.

[malvolio]

That would be the Daily Mail.

As I said, until you can make the break from "All X are Y", you'll never get peace.

The majority of people who voted in the Brexit referendum voted for us to leave the EU. That does not mean every single person in the UK is a far right racist criminal, or even all Brexit voters are far right racist criminals, some might be, but I wouldn't tar all Brexit voters with the same brush.

As long as you keep grouping people together and deciding in your head what they all think, there's no hope for you.

Perhaps you should read Hamas's manifesto....