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Stop sending CV's, you're not a permie.

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    #41
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    He must be great to be able to send a PPT for a project before he even knows what the project involves.
    Not worked with consultants much before then? Just add "our secure delivery and profit creation process allows us to solve all your problems magically" throw in some TLAs & drawings then you are good to go!
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #42
      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
      He must be great to be able to send a PPT for a project before he even knows what the project involves.
      Why would you apply before you have some info on the project? I bet you've sent a CV before even talking to the recruiter

      The trick is, deal with actual recruitment consultants that will share their RFP with you, don't deal with order taker consultants who don't know what's going on.

      Do you even know what a discovery process looks like? I get laughed at on here but it really is total amateur hour amongst you bull market contractors.

      I've NEVER been given the RFP and NOT won the work. I don't deal with recruiters that won't share

      (obviously adjust for recruiters that won their client without an RFP process - I have to say that for the pedants around here).
      Last edited by DrewG; 19 June 2023, 19:43.

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        #43
        I agree with your approach if you are a consultant presenting/answering a tender/bid, I suspect that's more pre-sales though. and having been sent there by your own consulting company. Then a presentation on how the consulting company, you represent, will supply and complete the work is probably going to include a PowerPoint at some juncture.

        However if you are simply a 'bum on seat' contractor there to provide a skill the company does not have, then a CV is how you should represent yourself, the client wants to know you have the skill, proven elsewhere and the experience.

        So for now I doubt any contractor is going to stop sending CVs.

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          #44
          Originally posted by DrewG View Post
          Do you even know what a discovery process looks like? I get laughed at on here but it really is total amateur hour amongst you bull market contractors.
          15 years contracting on top rates and I don't know. I must be an amateur.

          Thing is, you are lording it over us that we don't understand what you do. Most of us don't need to yet you are rambling on clearly not understand that.

          Getting very tedious now I must say. You spout some bulltulip that none of us recognise yet have thousands of years of successful contracting between us but yours is the only way and everone else is an amatuer.

          Just plain trolling now.

          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #45
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            15 years contracting on top rates and I don't know. I must be an amateur.

            Thing is, you are lording it over us that we don't understand what you do. Most of us don't need to yet you are rambling on clearly not understand that.

            Getting very tedious now I must say. You spout some bulltulip that none of us recognise yet have thousands of years of successful contracting between us but yours is the only way and everone else is an amatuer.

            Just plain trolling now.
            You seem to think the way you do it is the only way. There are plenty of contractors here out of contract and you can't even consider that maybe there is more than one approach, something different to the old send a CV and pray method that has worked so well for you.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DrewG View Post

              You seem to think the way you do it is the only way. There are plenty of contractors here out of contract and you can't even consider that maybe there is more than one approach, something different to the old send a CV and pray method that has worked so well for you.
              Folk here are out of contract because of a shortage of contracts, not because there is a deficiency in the way we are applying for them.

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                #47
                Originally posted by GJABS View Post

                Folk here are out of contract because of a shortage of contracts, not because there is a deficiency in the way we are applying for them.
                Folk are losing money because the stock market is down, not because they don't understand a bear market requires different tactics.

                A down market explains some losses, not all of them. One guy on here said he blasted dozens of CVs into Jobserve....

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DrewG View Post

                  You seem to think the way you do it is the only way.
                  I think you need to take a moment of self reflection.
                  'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by GJABS View Post

                    Folk here are out of contract because of a shortage of contracts, not because there is a deficiency in the way we are applying for them.
                    The really good people are rarely out of contract, it must be said.
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                      #50
                      Just a reminder that this guy posts about job ads on guess what ..... Jobserve

                      https://forums.contractoruk.com/gene...ml#post2977164

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