Stop sending CV's, you're not a permie.

[Lance]

A traditional CV is for permies and INSIDE contractors.

Making your CV IR35-proof: what contractors must do now, and by April 2020 (contractoruk.com)

my arse!!!!

Even consultancies are asked to provide CVs of their resources by clients.
If a client wants to know who they are getting, they want a CV. A known standard format which very quickly ascertains what skills this person claims to know.
The interviewer then uses this information to validate.

When I'm interviewing I don't have time to do anything other than skim read the 1st page of CV, and during the interview I will flick through and look for pertinent skills and ask about them. It works. And if I got a 3 page PPT it would be straight in the bin (with the other obvious bullsh1tters).

[DrewG]

northernladuk manager, and you full well know it) have a CV 'model' in their head, and the more deviate from it the harder it becomes for them to parse and compare you with others.

It's not a hill I'm willing to die on, not that it really matters now anyway, but nontheless - powerpoint presentations, do me a favour.

Edit to say: I wrote this before NLUK responded, we posted at the same time. His response is also spot on.

Oh, also, your powerpoint sounds absolutely gash anyway Drew. Sounds like something I'd have put together in college.

Yeah sure mate. Add your CV to the pile of 20 others that all say the same thing. What's in your CV that actually shows you understand the problem they're trying to solve that isn't in every other CV?

Maybe if you're taking the top 1/4 of your CV to actually talk about the business problem and your solution then you're only really sending the CV so get past the recruiter, nobody else cares.

[TheDude]

Don't conflate the length of a doc with how targeted it is. The only information I have is from the spec and the recruiter so it wouldn't be appropriate to waffle on beyond a few pages.

You were saving that for us - right?

[northernladuk]

6 multiple page CV's (likely too long) that list everything you'v ever done VS three pages that talk specifically about how to address the business problems listed in your spec. Which one is winning?

And this is an absolutely perfect example of why you are being an utter tit. Virtually everyone on this board, and in industry permie or otherwise, agrees a 6 page CV won't work. It's universally accepted.. Yet you try and use what virtually no one does to make your point. Just moronic.

As to the rest of your points, it sounds like you're saying most people here are happy with the feast or famine status quo. That's fine for you to say, but there may well be others that want to elevate their game beyond 'bums on seats' style contracting.

Yep I'd agree with that but some one like you making truely ******* awful arguments like the one above is not going to influence anyone. Period.

I do love these posts where ONLY the OP thinks they are right, not one of the nearly 15 experienced posters that have responded have agreen with a single point. Generally, if all around you think you are wrong the problem doesn't lie with us. You are trying change our minds and views yet not one single one of us thinks you are right. Maybe it's not us that needs a rethink, about the message and deliver of it at the very least.

[pr1]

I applied for a new role Monday last week. I sent a PPT with three slides instead of a CV.

The first slide was an exec summary split into two sections:

1. Situation: my understanding of the client’s current situation.
2. Recommendation: What needs to be done to move the project towards its goals.

The second slide was a rough plan (with high-level detail) of what I’m going to do.

Third slide was a high-level overview of me, my experience, and the top three things I’ll bring to the project. It’s basically a CV one-pager.

I interviewed Thursday and received an offer email a few minutes ago (Sunday evening, maybe a bad sign?).

In this bear market, are you still pumping out generic CVs to JobServe? Maybe think about bidding for work like an independent professional consultant instead of a low-level contractor. Client said this is the first time they’ve seen this type of application; it was well received.

Read Alan Weiss.

You've found a genius way to win new work and you within minutes of receiving an offer decide you need to post it on the internet with your anonymous competitors?

get a f life

[vetran]

my arse!!!!

Even consultancies are asked to provide CVs of their resources by clients.
If a client wants to know who they are getting, they want a CV. A known standard format which very quickly ascertains what skills this person claims to know.
The interviewer then uses this information to validate.

When I'm interviewing I don't have time to do anything other than skim read the 1st page of CV, and during the interview I will flick through and look for pertinent skills and ask about them. It works. And if I got a 3 page PPT it would be straight in the bin (with the other obvious bullsh1tters).

This sadly CVs rule even when they want you on billable time, but to get the job with the consultancy I did a presentation about a project I did so they knew how I was in front of a customer and thought.

[DrewG]

agrees a 6 page CV won't work.

I never said a 6 page CV.... your reading comprehension is terrible. Maybe that's why you sound so confused.

6 multiple page CV's != 6 page CV.
6 multiple page CV's == 6 CVs of multiple pages.

[edison]

I do have some empathy with the OP's idea but in my experience it only works in limited scenarios. If you're going via an agency then in most cases you can forget about it; most recruiters struggle with anything other than reverse chronological order CV. I've tried skills based ones and had at least 10 recruiters tell me they didn't like it.

If you're going direct or going via a consultancy then I think the PowerPoint type thing can work. I know friends who've put together a 3-4 slide summary on the proposed assignment approach but even then a one page summary CV is still sent to the client.

Horses for courses. If it works for the OP then fine, but for many others, well, YMMV.

[northernladuk]

Horses for courses. If it works for the OP then fine, but for many others, well, YMMV.

Exactly. A subtle point that the OP seems to not understand.

[Lance]

I never said a 6 page CV.... your reading comprehension is terrible. Maybe that's why you sound so confused.

6 multiple page CV's != 6 page CV.
6 multiple page CV's == 6 CVs of multiple pages.

no apostrophe in CVs.
I hope your grammar is better in your PPTs.