What a world we live in

[darmstadt]

Only in adverts imported from Germany and overdubbed.

Wrong. In fact the adverts in Germany are weird, there seems to be a lot of homosexual overtones recently, in fact the latest one for some chewing gum has lots of lesbian kissing. There seem to be a lot of patchwork families in them too. Very few with just white men anymore unlike the UK which seems to be just made up of white men with really red faces...including the women...

[Zigenare]

Wrong. In fact the adverts in Germany are weird, there seems to be a lot of homosexual overtones recently, in fact the latest one for some chewing gum has lots of lesbian kissing. There seem to be a lot of patchwork families in them too. Very few with just white men anymore unlike the UK which seems to be just made up of white men with really red faces...including the women...

Wrong.

[darmstadt]

Wrong.

Sorry, just Conservative MPs then, the decision makers, the ruling class, the glorious:

[vetran]

Wrong. In fact the adverts in Germany are weird, there seems to be a lot of homosexual overtones recently, in fact the latest one for some chewing gum has lots of lesbian kissing. There seem to be a lot of patchwork families in them too. Very few with just white men anymore unlike the UK which seems to be just made up of white men with really red faces...including the women...

Weird you don't say?

German LoveHoney

https://storage.googleapis.com/adfor...76575f_web.mp4

I reckon the one with Hello Kitty drawn on their face might be you?
https://storage.googleapis.com/adfor...cf1d79_web.mp4

actually some pretty good ones here

https://www.adforum.com/creative-wor.../play#34512308

[TheDude]

Reminds me of the advert you see on the C4 F1 coverage, where they literally shove their one female employee to the forefront with all the others pushed to the background.

I suspect F1 coverage and Top Gear attract a sizeable amount of chauvinist viewers.

[vetran]

I suspect F1 coverage and Top Gear attract a sizeable amount of chauvinist viewers.

That is getting less common they have had female presenters and drivers for decades.

I thoroughly enjoyed Sabine Schmitz out driving Clarkson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Schmitz

https://www.topgear.com/videos/top-g...es-6-episode-7

I do wonder why F1 hasn't discovered women drivers yet, it may be one of the few 'sports' that male & females could compete equally without their physical differences being an issue. Where are the Lisa Hamiltons?

[quackhandle]

When on holiday a while back in the good ole USA I was surprised to see that it did not have a professional Women's MLB.

I mean it's baseball, it is as American as an Orange President with small hands.

I did some research (I looked on one website and spoke to someone on Twitter) and it seems that when girls get to their teens they are "pushed" to Softball.

I would say there is an untapped market there to make a few $$$$.

qh

[d000hg]

Wrong. In fact the adverts in Germany are weird, there seems to be a lot of homosexual overtones recently, in fact the latest one for some chewing gum has lots of lesbian kissing. There seem to be a lot of patchwork families in them too. Very few with just white men anymore unlike the UK which seems to be just made up of white men with really red faces...including the women...

It's quite notable in the UK (if you stop to take note) how common ethnic and gay actors are in adverts now. Disproportionate to the actual ethnic/gay population nationally although of course London is far more metropolitan - to Londoners adverts might still seem pretty homogenous by contrast with real life.

[malvolio]

That is getting less common they have had female presenters and drivers for decades.

I thoroughly enjoyed Sabine Schmitz out driving Clarkson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Schmitz

https://www.topgear.com/videos/top-g...es-6-episode-7

I do wonder why F1 hasn't discovered women drivers yet, it may be one of the few 'sports' that male & females could compete equally without their physical differences being an issue. Where are the Lisa Hamiltons?

There are plenty of contenders. Sadly the dedicated W series has died from lack of sponsorship, although the FIA is now trying to set up a ladies-only feeder series, starting at F3/F4 level. Part of the problem is that both W and the FIA's new start with the lower end racing cars and one-make solutions, which while emphasising the skills of the driver don't really do a lot for the spectacle, and so won't attract TV audiences which limits income....

That said, the drivers in F1 are among the fittest athletes on the planet (could you do a triathlon without any additional training?) but I'm not sure that the old idea that women weren't strong enough and fit enough to drive the cars still holds up.

And finally, one of the blockers is that a good half the F1 drivers bring their own sponsorship, limiting access to the less well off. The Hamiltons of this world are a serious exception.

[d000hg]

There are plenty of contenders. Sadly the dedicated W series has died from lack of sponsorship, although the FIA is now trying to set up a ladies-only feeder series, starting at F3/F4 level.

W-series isn't officially dead unless there was more news this week, it has stalled(!) this year but they hope to run both next year as it targets different age-groups. One is for established female drivers the other is for up-and-coming.

That said, the drivers in F1 are among the fittest athletes on the planet (could you do a triathlon without any additional training?) but I'm not sure that the old idea that women weren't strong enough and fit enough to drive the cars still holds up.

I think it is a factor for sure - like maybe the top 5% of men are fit enough but only the top 1% of women are or something so it's harder for a woman to get that level - but quite possible. F1 is more an endurance sport - in fact they often have to cut muscle for weight reasons depending on the regulations, and I know a lady who competes in those ultra-ironman type events and routinely comes first in front of even the male athletes. It seems clear there are women who have the ability (or could do with training).