Reply to: What a world we live in

[d000hg]

Watch the American series's. I kid you not, there is a lesbian or gay relationship in every single one of them now. My other half binge watches them and she's not see one for a bit now that hasn't. Nothing wrong and yeah is a reflection of life, but every single show bar none? Some of them definitely put in there for a reason and not for the script as it feels really out of place, others it's kind of natural. Just noteable it's every single show now.

I would say UK is even ahead on this now? Would certainly agree it feels forced in many cases, it's noteworthy when a show does it naturally (Schitt's Creek does it really well). But thinking about it a writer has to explicitly make a decision when developing a character if they are gay so to pick any minority demographic is 'forced'. Randomly deciding that 10% of your characters should be gay wouldn't be unreasonable - like even using a random generator so it's not your conscious choice (unless it's specifically part of the plot)

[vetran]

Watch the American series's. I kid you not, there is a lesbian or gay relationship in every single one of them now. My other half binge watches them and she's not see one for a bit now that hasn't. Nothing wrong and yeah is a reflection of life, but every single show bar none? Some of them definitely put in there for a reason and not for the script as it feels really out of place, others it's kind of natural. Just noteable it's every single show now.

Sounds more like NLyUK is selecting such stuff!

[northernladuk]

It's quite notable in the UK (if you stop to take note) how common ethnic and gay actors are in adverts now. Disproportionate to the actual ethnic/gay population nationally although of course London is far more metropolitan - to Londoners adverts might still seem pretty homogenous by contrast with real life.

Watch the American series's. I kid you not, there is a lesbian or gay relationship in every single one of them now. My other half binge watches them and she's not see one for a bit now that hasn't. Nothing wrong and yeah is a reflection of life, but every single show bar none? Some of them definitely put in there for a reason and not for the script as it feels really out of place, others it's kind of natural. Just noteable it's every single show now.

[northernladuk]

I bet the farmers were both male and white? Am I correct?

Bearing in mind 97.2% of workers in agricultural, forestry and fishing are white it appears it's representative. 25% of farmers are women but hard to fit that in to two people.

[vetran]

normal for you, doesn't stop you posting pish though

I'm trying to keep up with the quality of your output, I would be better connecting a sewage line to CUK.

[sadkingbilly]

I actually didn't know

normal for you, doesn't stop you posting pish though

[vetran]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...la_One_drivers

wow the game is crawling with them. I actually didn't know they allowed women. As I say the ladies should compete more then!

This is a list of female motor racing drivers who have taken part in the Formula One World Championship since the inception of the World Championship for Drivers in 1950.

Five women racing drivers have entered at least one Grand Prix, although only two of them ever qualified and started a race. The woman who competed in the most Grands Prix is Lella Lombardi, with 17 entries and 12 starts.

Desiré Wilson became the only woman to win a Formula One race of any kind when she won at Brands Hatch in the British Aurora F1 championship on 7 April 1980. As a result of this achievement, she has a grandstand at Brands Hatch named after her.^[1]

[pr1]

F1 is single sex, surely if its reasonable for both sexes to win then why not make it mixed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...la_One_drivers

[vetran]

Come again?

F1 is single sex, surely if its reasonable for both sexes to win then why not make it mixed?

[d000hg]

so a sexist mens race needs challenging?

Come again?

[vetran]

W-series isn't officially dead unless there was more news this week, it has stalled(!) this year but they hope to run both next year as it targets different age-groups. One is for established female drivers the other is for up-and-coming.


I think it is a factor for sure - like maybe the top 5% of men are fit enough but only the top 1% of women are or something so it's harder for a woman to get that level - but quite possible. F1 is more an endurance sport - in fact they often have to cut muscle for weight reasons depending on the regulations, and I know a lady who competes in those ultra-ironman type events and routinely comes first in front of even the male athletes. It seems clear there are women who have the ability (or could do with training).

so a sexist mens race needs challenging?

[Zigenare]

It's quite notable in the UK (if you stop to take note) how common ethnic and gay actors are in adverts now. Disproportionate to the actual ethnic/gay population nationally although of course London is far more metropolitan - to Londoners adverts might still seem pretty homogenous by contrast with real life.

Don't bring facts into the discussion, Darmy is "fact averse".

[d000hg]

There are plenty of contenders. Sadly the dedicated W series has died from lack of sponsorship, although the FIA is now trying to set up a ladies-only feeder series, starting at F3/F4 level.

W-series isn't officially dead unless there was more news this week, it has stalled(!) this year but they hope to run both next year as it targets different age-groups. One is for established female drivers the other is for up-and-coming.

That said, the drivers in F1 are among the fittest athletes on the planet (could you do a triathlon without any additional training?) but I'm not sure that the old idea that women weren't strong enough and fit enough to drive the cars still holds up.

I think it is a factor for sure - like maybe the top 5% of men are fit enough but only the top 1% of women are or something so it's harder for a woman to get that level - but quite possible. F1 is more an endurance sport - in fact they often have to cut muscle for weight reasons depending on the regulations, and I know a lady who competes in those ultra-ironman type events and routinely comes first in front of even the male athletes. It seems clear there are women who have the ability (or could do with training).

[malvolio]

That is getting less common they have had female presenters and drivers for decades.

I thoroughly enjoyed Sabine Schmitz out driving Clarkson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Schmitz

https://www.topgear.com/videos/top-g...es-6-episode-7

I do wonder why F1 hasn't discovered women drivers yet, it may be one of the few 'sports' that male & females could compete equally without their physical differences being an issue. Where are the Lisa Hamiltons?

There are plenty of contenders. Sadly the dedicated W series has died from lack of sponsorship, although the FIA is now trying to set up a ladies-only feeder series, starting at F3/F4 level. Part of the problem is that both W and the FIA's new start with the lower end racing cars and one-make solutions, which while emphasising the skills of the driver don't really do a lot for the spectacle, and so won't attract TV audiences which limits income....

That said, the drivers in F1 are among the fittest athletes on the planet (could you do a triathlon without any additional training?) but I'm not sure that the old idea that women weren't strong enough and fit enough to drive the cars still holds up.

And finally, one of the blockers is that a good half the F1 drivers bring their own sponsorship, limiting access to the less well off. The Hamiltons of this world are a serious exception.

[d000hg]

Wrong. In fact the adverts in Germany are weird, there seems to be a lot of homosexual overtones recently, in fact the latest one for some chewing gum has lots of lesbian kissing. There seem to be a lot of patchwork families in them too. Very few with just white men anymore unlike the UK which seems to be just made up of white men with really red faces...including the women...

It's quite notable in the UK (if you stop to take note) how common ethnic and gay actors are in adverts now. Disproportionate to the actual ethnic/gay population nationally although of course London is far more metropolitan - to Londoners adverts might still seem pretty homogenous by contrast with real life.