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    #11
    https://theconversation.com/if-inter...nces-be-189153

    "Central banks are having to choose between ruinous inflation or ruinous interest rates."
    Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Whorty View Post
      I've said it before, but no government wants a housing crash. We as homeowners feel 'rich' because of the value of our house. We all go on Zoopla to look up how much it's worth, and think ... yeah, I'm worth £xx0,000. Feeling rich, we feel ok to spend.

      Have a big house price correction, we all start to feel less rich. This makes us nervous. We cut down on spending. And bang ....

      So personally, I think the government/bank will do everything to keep house prices as stable as possible. A small drop? Maybe. A crash? Not likely.
      Whilst I agree completely that the last thing the govt wants is a "proper" housing crash, I'm not sure they still have many tools left to stop one. They've pulled it off a few times over the last decade with various help to buy schemes and stamp duty holidays, and arguably we would be in a better place now if they hadn't done so, with a reasonable correction behind us. I can't see what they could do now to stop prices falling because they have no way of manipulating mortgage rates down. A moratorium on repossessions could stem the worst of the blood shed I suppose but at what cost?

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        #13
        They really got themselves in a corner as pushing interest rates higher will definitely cause an even bigger recession which is already pretty massive due to Brexit, but if they do bugger all they'll end up with loads of small businesses folding and most likely a recession due to this anyway. Remember that the effects of increasing interest rates are visible after 2-4 quarters, so it's like trying to control an object with loads of lag (bit like Covid and late lock downs), it's hard and there's loads of external factors.

        Best of luck then...

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          #14
          Originally posted by mattster View Post

          Whilst I agree completely that the last thing the govt wants is a "proper" housing crash, I'm not sure they still have many tools left to stop one. They've pulled it off a few times over the last decade with various help to buy schemes and stamp duty holidays, and arguably we would be in a better place now if they hadn't done so, with a reasonable correction behind us. I can't see what they could do now to stop prices falling because they have no way of manipulating mortgage rates down. A moratorium on repossessions could stem the worst of the blood shed I suppose but at what cost?
          Totally agree. I wonder what ponzi svheme they'll come up with next to keep house prices high .... popcorn time
          I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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            #15
            Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post
            https://theconversation.com/if-inter...nces-be-189153

            "Central banks are having to choose between ruinous inflation or ruinous interest rates."
            Inflation is ruinous for the private sector. The BofE and the public sector are protected with inflation-proof pensions and salaries.

            So the people deciding whether to fight inflation are the people that benefit the most from inflation. It will be a massive wealth transfer to themselves and will increase inequality in society.

            I wonder which they’ll choose.

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              #16
              Originally posted by hugebrain View Post

              Inflation is ruinous for the private sector. The BofE and the public sector are protected with inflation-proof pensions and salaries.
              Seems you missed all the strikes that have been occurring or going to happen.


              But then we know a lot about your brain.
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #17
                Interest rates only predicted to go up to around 4%, though that won't be enough if inflation continues to rise.
                I'm alright Jack

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                  Interest rates only predicted to go up to around 4%, though that won't be enough if inflation continues to rise.
                  Interest rates can't control inflation as the factors are external such as energy prices.

                  Energy prices are causing businesses problems already.
                  In fact lots of small businesses e.g. butchers, delis, knick-knack shops, restaurants that have premises with owners over 55 are folding already. The owners have decided it isn't worth continuing. (I walked past a closed down restaurant a couple of hours ago and there is a sign up as the owner is trying to get rid of their lease.A butchers not to far away has closed down.)

                  Medium size businesses with multiple premises are consolidating if they can to have one or two.

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                  "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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