EU Bans Lightning

[vetran]

This leads on to an interesting thought (for Vet & co)

Should the UK go back to 240VAC rather than 230VAC?
In the 1980s and earlier, we were officially 240VAC mains, but that changed in the 90s onwards, that we are now nominally 230VAC. This is the same as wonderful Australia (used to be 240, changed to 230) and evil EU (used to be 220, now 230)

why? Oh you can only think about things in terms of winning and losing at Brexit not what works!

You must be a Brexidiot

[d000hg]

Our new car has USB C sockets throughout, so rather annoyingly have now had to purchase a few C-C cables, whereas the house is full of built in USB A. I'd rather imagined that USB A would remain the standard for the "powered" end, since it is so prevalent now, and presumably absolutely fine for power only. Having said that the car does have data as well so maybe that explains it.

C-C works very nicely so longer term I would like that but as you say, everyone has standardised on USB-A, even Apple, at the 'supply' end so I think that might be some time away.

Do you know if the USB C standard will have to apply to these sorts of things as well then? Loads of rechargeable gadgets use micro USB now.

From the story "The EU has provisionally agreed all new portable electronic devices must, by autumn 2024, use a USB Type-C charger, a move it says will benefit consumers". So I am guessing yes - the news coverage is overwhelmingly about Apple but it seems it would cover everyone selling micro-USB as well and that is seemingly still the majority for made-in-china electronics, though USBC is getting more common all the time.

[WTFH]

It must take ages to charge your car via USB-C

He's got a LaFerrari

[Paddy]

Our new car has USB C sockets throughout, so rather annoyingly have now had to purchase a few C-C cables, whereas the house is full of built in USB A. I'd rather imagined that USB A would remain the standard for the "powered" end, since it is so prevalent now, and presumably absolutely fine for power only. Having said that the car does have data as well so maybe that explains it.




Do you know if the USB C standard will have to apply to these sorts of things as well then? Loads of rechargeable gadgets use micro USB now.

It must take ages to charge your car via USB-C

[WTFH]

Our new car has USB C sockets throughout, so rather annoyingly have now had to purchase a few C-C cables, whereas the house is full of built in USB A. I'd rather imagined that USB A would remain the standard for the "powered" end, since it is so prevalent now, and presumably absolutely fine for power only. Having said that the car does have data as well so maybe that explains it.

Do you know if the USB C standard will have to apply to these sorts of things as well then? Loads of rechargeable gadgets use micro USB now.

USB C can be up to 20V and up to 5A, USB A is 5V and then the current depends on which USB standard the socket conforms to.
USB C is also a far faster data transfer, etc, and the idea is to move away from old MicroUSB A/B and on to something with a wider range of power and speed.

[mattster]

Am I right that this only covers the end that you stick in your device? The source end can still be USB-A or some awful hard-wired adapter? Bi-directional USBC could be nice eventually but many of us have replaced all our power outlets with ones featuring USB

Our new car has USB C sockets throughout, so rather annoyingly have now had to purchase a few C-C cables, whereas the house is full of built in USB A. I'd rather imagined that USB A would remain the standard for the "powered" end, since it is so prevalent now, and presumably absolutely fine for power only. Having said that the car does have data as well so maybe that explains it.

It's not only phones, as above there are thousands of things from earbuds to fairly lights.

Do you know if the USB C standard will have to apply to these sorts of things as well then? Loads of rechargeable gadgets use micro USB now.

[PerfectStorm]

The World is moving to USB-C, as are apple. My MacBook uses it as its sole charging/everything else port too.

Lightning was a great innovation in its day - smaller than the 30 pin iPod connector, not as crushable as mini/micro USB. USB-C may as well be a Lightning the world can use.

[WTFH]

This leads on to an interesting thought (for Vet & co)

Should the UK go back to 240VAC rather than 230VAC?
In the 1980s and earlier, we were officially 240VAC mains, but that changed in the 90s onwards, that we are now nominally 230VAC. This is the same as wonderful Australia (used to be 240, changed to 230) and evil EU (used to be 220, now 230)

[d000hg]

In addition, you can change the plug on your appliances - or supply them without a plug - so the issue of wastage and confusion isn't there.

If only it were that simple!
https://www.stayonline.com/product-r...ence-chart.asp

I don't know how many of those are routinely used but somehow I'm not surprsied.

[WTFH]

US power outlets are the ones I find most scary but then they are 120V so a big difference. Except that USA being USA, they have more than one power outlet - for heavier duty stuff they use 3 pin plugs (and possibly 240V?)

If only it were that simple!
https://www.stayonline.com/product-r...ence-chart.asp