EU Bans Lightning

[Paddy]

Within USB-C there are different protocols for charging. So it is nonsense that it stops innovation.

Oh and why would any company make a different product for the UK market when the type G plugs used are used in other countries within the EU and around the world.

Just had a read about that, the short answer is nothing preventing a slight modification to news phones to enable a type c being used

[WTFH]

It’s a good thing. Standards are good generally.

the only question is what about devices that are physically too small for a USBC?
There will certainly be an allowance for small devices and that’s where apples BS about innovation falls down. They will be able to use different ones for certain use cases.

Apple's original issue was with the 2009 document which was to use MicroUSB. One of their objections is that MicroUSB is a one way connector - you can't put it in upside down.
The new regs are based on USB-C - which can go in either way, and only apply to certain devices.

The good news is that Apple & Intel's Thunderbolt is the same connector as USB-C, but running at twice the speed

[Lance]

It’s a good thing. Standards are good generally.

the only question is what about devices that are physically too small for a USBC?
There will certainly be an allowance for small devices and that’s where apples BS about innovation falls down. They will be able to use different ones for certain use cases.

[d000hg]

the costs of redesigning products for different markets will be passed on. And because we have 6 or 7 perfectly good (and fairly new) lightning cables dotted around, which will go to landfill in a couple of years, for no good reason.

The cost can't be particularly high for Apple, I don't think Lightning is far different from USBC. And by then you will have some USBC cables you can use.

The far bigger impact is everyone who has already standardised on USB - in microUSB - will also have to switch. That's a huge thing. Of course more and more things are migrating to USBC already so maybe it'll only speed up the inevitable.

[WTFH]

Mine doesn't, it's got a lightning port and that's it.

Since 2018, iPads have been moving over to USB-C, starting with the high end ones and even the mini and air are also included. Only the budget models are still on lightning.

[Mordac]

So Brextulipers are still searching for reasons leaving the EU. In any event, the UK will be making exactly the same USB C regulations as the EU

It's not in 'that' forum because I wasn't asking 'that' question. I want to know if it's generally a good idea or a bad one, and whether there were any technical implications. I hope the UK don't follow suit, fwiw, because the costs of redesigning products for different markets will be passed on. And because we have 6 or 7 perfectly good (and fairly new) lightning cables dotted around, which will go to landfill in a couple of years, for no good reason.

[SueEllen]

Within USB-C there are different protocols for charging. So it is nonsense that it stops innovation.

Oh and why would any company make a different product for the UK market when the type G plugs used are used in other countries within the EU and around the world.

[Guy At Charnock Richard]

It's a good idea and they've been talking about it for years.
Apple iPads have thunderbolt/USB-C ports, so it's only iPhones that are impacted.

Mine doesn't, it's got a lightning port and that's it.

[Paddy]

Seriously.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61720276

If this belongs in 'the other place', I apologise, but this has implications beyond squabbling about that. Apple will obviously be forced to redesign their products for sales in the EU, but will they make the change world-wide? Is this genuinely a good idea, or does our current kit become obsolete, because it won't connect to new devices?

So Brextulipers are still searching for reasons leaving the EU. In any event, the UK will be making exactly the same USB C regulations as the EU

[WTFH]

It's a good idea and they've been talking about it for years.
Apple iPads have thunderbolt/USB-C ports, so it's only iPhones that are impacted.