[OFFICIAL] Ukraine Thread

[Fraidycat]

Those photos which I posted a few days ago in this thread were available for many years

The kissing the kids stomach incident is really old. I remember when it originally happened it was viral online in video form.

Just checked youtube, the video is on there from 16 years ago, and it might have happened well before that.

[Eirikur]

The kissing the kids stomach incident is really old. I remember when it originally happened it was viral online in video form.

Just checked youtube, the video is on there from 16 years ago, and it might have happened well before that.

It's old, so Putin is not a pedo? Is that your conclusion?

[Fraidycat]

How did Fox news they let this interview slip through.

This retired colonel was a top war planner with the US army.

And he drops lots of truth bombs in this interview like:

'The US did way more damage to Iraq than Russia has done to Ukraine'

[SueEllen]

Not a good look from Ukraine in this article. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...out-of-ukraine

You missed sections of the UK and Irish media reporting this.

[NotAllThere]

You missed sections of the UK and Irish media reporting this.

Yes, I did. But I wasn't claiming they weren't. I just happened across it.

[DealorNoDeal]

Visa and Mastercard suspend operations in Russia. Ditto PayPal.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-i...ussia-12558938

Obvious conclusion drawn by Russians: they must all be part of the Nazi conspiracy.

[malvolio]

...snip...

'The US did way more damage to Iraq than Russia has done to Ukraine'

Since the Iraq war was equally illegal, and was also a case of a foreign nation trying to force regime change, the two are actually quite comparable...

Plus at least Putin has a follow-up plan to put in his own government; Bush and Blair forgot about that aspect and that's what did the real damage.

[Fraidycat]

Since the Iraq war was equally illegal, and was also a case of a foreign nation trying to force regime change, the two are actually quite comparable...

I agree, when i saw all the outrage (from those who supported the Iraq war) about Putin's invasion, i thought 'wait a minute this is very similar to what Bush and Blair did in Iraq'.
But it has been almost 20 years since the Iraq invasion. March 2003 (was it really that long ago )

Seems like most have forgotten how brutally we bombed Iraq and all the lies and propaganda that was pumped out to justify that war.

[DealorNoDeal]

I agree, when i saw all the outrage (from those who supported the Iraq war) about Putin's invasion, i thought 'wait a minute this is very similar to what Bush and Blair did in Iraq'.
But it has been almost 20 years since the Iraq invasion. March 2003 (was it really that long ago )

Seems like most have forgotten how brutally we bombed Iraq and all the lies and propaganda that was pumped out to justify that war.

Bit of a slippery slope though if you allow "well, it's only like what they did" as any form of justification.

[NotAllThere]

Bit of a slippery slope though if you allow "well, it's only like what they did" as any form of justification.

Ukraine: Democratic free country, living at peace with its neighbours - even given up WMD for promises to respect its sovereignty.
Iraq: Brutal dictactorship under Saddam, already responsible for two wars (at least), and known for its use of chemical weaponry and designs on being a regional power.

Not exactly the same situation, I feel. Especially as the second was fully reported and questioned by MSM - whereas Russia is keeping the facts of its invasion from the Russian people, and jailing anyone who tries to talk about it.