Nobody told him it was his birthday.

[malvolio]

This "left wing press" you refer to, does that include the Daily Mail and the Telegraph?

Now you're simply being obtuse. Try reading my post again.

[WTFH]

Now you're simply being obtuse. Try reading my post again.

This post:

I'm actually just trying to make people think, rather than simply parroting the left wing press, and taking the opposite view is the way to do it. Which is what the other ide of the argument are also doing. It's getting boring now, and clearly reasoned discourse is not an option, the climenoles are running the show i this and similar threads.

Or this one:

OK, if we believe the mainstream press (not the BBC or the Grauniad):

Although, speaking of "obtuse", I don't know what a "climenole" is, perhaps it's a new term that hasn't made it into the "mainstream press".

But the fact that the right and far right consider the BBC left wing, and the left and far left consider it right wing, that to me says it's doing a fairly balanced job. If the sources you rely on claim that it is heavily slanted away from you, then maybe check other sources.

[Paralytic]

There a is a sense in which I like the fact he refuses to change how he carries himself just to be more popular, and he's normally an arse to make a valid point - but hardly a vote-winner.

Are you serious? Johnson is the epitome of someone who changes what he says to appease the audience he's addressing at that point in time.

[d000hg]

Are you serious? Johnson is the epitome of someone who changes what he says to appease the audience he's addressing at that point in time.

Now go back and read my post again. There's a subtle clue that we're not talking about BJ.

[Paralytic]

Now go back and read my post again. There's a subtle clue that we're not talking about BJ.

But that's against the rules - all posts have to be about Johnson. So, point stands

[SueEllen]

Ahh PMQs time.

[d000hg]

But the fact that the right and far right consider the BBC left wing, and the left and far left consider it right wing, that to me says it's doing a fairly balanced job. If the sources you rely on claim that it is heavily slanted away from you, then maybe check other sources.

Agreed. It does a pretty good job on left/right bias although one could claim it has a pro-government bias. As much as by stories they don't report, or the way their language mirrors the governments.
Particularly during Covid one might accuse them of being a government mouthpiece BUT one might well argue the press has an ethical responsibility to promote things like war-efforts, vaccination programs, etc so I think we can consider that a special case.

[SueEllen]

Particularly during Covid one might accuse them of being a government mouthpiece BUT one might well argue the press has an ethical responsibility to promote things like war-efforts, vaccination programs, etc so I think we can consider that a special case.

Nearly all broadcasters were government mouthpieces during lockdown.

I suspect that some like the BBC have it in their charter/license that they have to be government mouthpieces during national emergencies. Even those that weren't had to comply by OFCOM standards - https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-an...nd-coronavirus

In addition the streaming companies and telecoms companies were requested by governments and supra-national organisations to help.

[WTFH]

Since the Torygraph, Wail and Express aren't running the story yet, here's the nearest I could find in the Hull Daily Mail (Definitely not "main Stream")

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tement-6563163

The Met have asked Sue Gray to remove all the bits from her report that might be about the things she was supposed to investigate.
It's in Sky, BBC, Independent, LES, Mirror, S*n, but not yet in the 3 MSM named in the first sentence.

[Unix]

Since the Torygraph, Wail and Express aren't running the story yet, here's the nearest I could find in the Hull Daily Mail (Definitely not "main Stream")

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tement-6563163

The Met have asked Sue Gray to remove all the bits from her report that might be about the things she was supposed to investigate.
It's in Sky, BBC, Independent, LES, Mirror, S*n, but not yet in the 3 MSM named in the first sentence.

Let the whitewash begin...this never ends well, the public will see through this and Tories are finished unless they get rid of the trolley ASAP.