That's interesting. I always thought that apprenticeships were for youngsters and that by 30 you're assumed to have a career well under way (for the purposes of such a scheme, I mean)
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostThat's interesting. I always thought that apprenticeships were for youngsters and that by 30 you're assumed to have a career well under way (for the purposes of such a scheme, I mean)
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Originally posted by Halo Jones View PostPersonal opinion: Apprenticeships are great,
I became an apprentice at 30, did my degree on day release, Employer paid Uni fees, day wage & gave me experience on site.
Yes the starting wage is lower but after 5 yrs I had not only a degree, a job, 5yrs experience but No Uni Debt,
During the 5yrs I had 3 promotions with associated benefits to recognise my progress,
As for "tied to an employer" I could have swapped out to another company on the apprentice programme, once qualified I was tied for 12mth, in that if I left the Employer I would pay back a proportion of the fees, but after that I was as free as any other permie
I did learn a trade but it was dying out. I transferred to general electronics then telecoms, luckily I had followed the ONC/HNC route not C&G.
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I've come across a few people who have radically changed career direction or for whatever reason never learned a trade/profession when young and then later wanted to 'make something of themself'. Quite heartening in my view.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostOk boomer.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostThat's interesting. I always thought that apprenticeships were for youngsters and that by 30 you're assumed to have a career well under way (for the purposes of such a scheme, I mean)
it’s only tricky when you are older if you already have a degree.
I went for a complete career change from running a hire/sale scaffolding yard to becoming a thrice chartered* QS
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostThat's interesting. I always thought that apprenticeships were for youngsters and that by 30 you're assumed to have a career well under way (for the purposes of such a scheme, I mean)'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View PostAs my mate the plumber told me 40 years ago even the queen needs a plumber, he had the first mobile phone I ever saw, a huge Mercedes van and a house twice the size of the rest of us. plumbing has always been good money.
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Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
Indeed. Porn gives a false impression of plumbers; they're never available when you need one.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostNo. The point is successive governments have pushed degrees more than apprenticeships. They should be more balanced. Furthermore, you can do an apprenticeship and then go to university later - and being older you'll probably get more out of it.
I think apprenticeships are great. My beef is with UK government policy generally pushing degrees.
I'm not sure why you think I think that! My aim here was not to say Swiss apprenticeships are great, UK ones are crap, rather that it's a shame that in the UK apprenticeships aren't as much seen as entirely viable alternatives to going direct to university.
The government should be doing more to create more good quality apprenticeships.
Tell you one thing I did see which I assume is part of the failing of the govt to push apprenticeships harder, and it might just have been sector specific but there were so many applicants and so few places the bar was set very high. They had the two year apprenticeships that put the applicant through BTEC before going on to a degree aimed at school leavers in place of A levels. Everyone that was taken on had already done A levels at his firm. Although the entry criteria was GCSE from school the people picked already had the A levels. The applicants were seeing it as second best option to going straight on to the degree program with their A levels.
The gov can say they there are X00's of school leaver programmes out there but no school leavers were getting the best ones leading to degrees.
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