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Russia Fires Warning Shots at British Warship in Black Sea

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    #41
    Originally posted by cannon999 View Post

    Oh yes that old chestnut. Where is all the uprise and the fighting in Crimea about the illegal annexation of Crimea by Russians? I would have thought that it is upto people living in Crimea to decide which country they belong to? That's right, there was none because 65% of people living there are ethnic Russians.
    Yep because Vlad the invader is far more cuddly than Uncle Joe or his namesake was.

    You understand the USSR managed to subjugate ~ 300 million people for decades?

    Read this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulag_Archipelago

    and this


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Da...van_Denisovich
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #42
      Surely this is down to Bozo the Clown labouring under the delusion that he's W.S.C.
      When the fun stops, STOP.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
        I now want to see the Battleship movies
        Watch Skyline or even original Red Dawn, it’s more relevant here

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          #44
          Originally posted by cannon999 View Post

          Oh yes that old chestnut. Where is all the uprise and the fighting in Crimea about the illegal annexation of Crimea by Russians? I would have thought that it is upto people living in Crimea to decide which country they belong to? That's right, there was none because 65% of people living there are ethnic Russians.
          And lets not forget the 2014 referendum:

          "The official result was a 97 percent vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83 percent voter turnout"

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            #45
            As Craig Murray has commented:
            The legality of the British action is, at very best, moot. In realpolitik, it is an act of brinkmanship with a nuclear power and further effort to ramp up the new Cold War with Russia, to the benefit of the military, security services and armaments companies and the disbenefit of those who need more socially useful government spending. It is further an act of jingoist populism for the neo-liberal elite to distract the masses, as the billionaires’ incredible wealth continues to boom.

            NATO will shortly commence a naval exercise in the Black Sea. As not all the member states of NATO are quite as unhinged as Johnson, it is to be hoped it will refrain from this kind of extra layer of provocation.


            It's also stating the obvious to note that the "defensive" posture of NATO in Europe should be viewed through an Atlantic lens. US interest is not EU interest.

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            Murray's blog has more information.

            https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...the-black-sea/


            ‘His body, his mind and his soul are his capital, and his task in life is to invest it favourably to make a profit of himself.’ (Erich Fromm, ‘The Sane Society’, Routledge, 1991, p.138)

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              #46
              Originally posted by lecyclist View Post
              As Craig Murray has commented:
              (snipped)
              Murray's blog has more information.

              https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...the-black-sea/

              Craig Murray is a barking loonbat.
              His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                #47
                Legality was, is and will be very clear, and to make it crystal it was a modern warship

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Paddy View Post

                  Not quite, the British navel ship sailed close Sevastopol which is the home of the Russian Submarine Fleet. The navel base was leased from Ukraine since Ukraine independence. Even if Crimea was still under Ukraine control, that area would be an exclusion zone to all except Russia.
                  Ukraine has withdrawn the lease, as Russia is not paying for it anymore and because of the illegal occupation, so yes quite

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

                    Not quite, the British navel ship sailed close Sevastopol which is the home of the Russian Submarine Fleet. The navel base was leased from Ukraine since Ukraine independence. Even if Crimea was still under Ukraine control, that area would be an exclusion zone to all except Russia.
                    belly button boats then?
                    tosspot.

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