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Get ready to be cold and poor in 2025

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    #91
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    so £4.5K /£600 is 7.5 years break even. Assuming a lifetime of 30 years that is 22.5 years of profit (£13.5k) not a bad return.
    At my age, 7.5 years is quite a long time.

    I'm not sure I could be bothered with the hassle to start making £50/month in 7.5 years time.
    Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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      #92
      Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post

      At my age, 7.5 years is quite a long time.

      I'm not sure I could be bothered with the hassle to start making £50/month in 7.5 years time.
      damn you are old. My Father is in his mid 80s installed them in his new house.
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #93
        I'm beginning to wonder whether the next economic crisis will be caused by the green energy revolution.
        I'm alright Jack

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          #94
          I've lost the sense what everyone is arguing about in this thread?

          Fact, the future is Carbon free.
          Fact, the cost of energy and transport will rise significantly to cover the cost of all these changes.
          Fact, you will be cold, poor and miserable if you are still in the UK in 2025.

          First Law of Contracting: Only the strong survive

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            #95
            Originally posted by vetran View Post

            As mentioned before, storage heaters, immersion heater, electric car, powerwall and still get your surplus payments if on the original fit.
            Those all let you store your energy perhaps overnight with the exception of powerwall. And I assume the capacity of a powerwall is maybe a day or 2's use? I don't run my heating from about June-September so I don't think I can store 4 months' energy for winter. Which is surely when the bulk of my PV energy is generated.

            For people installing PV now, are there any good tariffs? Otherwise it seems a bit pointless.

            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #96
              Originally posted by _V_ View Post
              I've lost the sense what everyone is arguing about in this thread?
              Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
              Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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                #97
                Do all you can but nothing will improve the climate change situation unless big polluters US and China sort out their act.
                UK co2 emmision 350million ton/year
                China 10 billion ton /year

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by _V_ View Post
                  Fact, you will be cold, poor and miserable if you are still in the UK in 2025.

                  Well do something about it then & feck off somewhere else instead of pontificating on here.
                  When the fun stops, STOP.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by TwoWolves View Post
                    I live in the countryside where almost every heating system is oil-based, if we switched to electric the grid would fail and I don't see anyone upgrading the network in preparation.

                    The only alternative is a log burner but I don't see how that helps carbon emissions.
                    Not anywhere in London it isn't...
                    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                      There was an article sometime ago , that the gov were going to phase out log burners

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