Get ready to be cold and poor in 2025

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I can't really get on board with solar if there's no decent feed-in tariff. If you drew graphs of "how much solar I'm harvesting" overlaid with "how much energy I'm using" I reckon they'd be pretty much out of phase. Storage hasn't really been cracked... sure I can heat a tank of water.

Storage has been cracked and the storage system is totally free....if you own an electric car.

[DealorNoDeal]

Houses are much cheaper in other countries already

That was my point. By emigrating to Spain, for example, you not only save a fortune on heating but you also benefit from houses that are a fraction of the price of the UK.

[DealorNoDeal]

Solar doesn't perform very well in the UK. It's just not sunny enough here.

A 100W solar panel only achieves anywhere near 100W in full sun. Even the wispiest cloud will greatly reduce the power output. And as for cloudy days, forget it.

If you live outside a city, and have the space, a wind turbine is probably a much better bet.

[_V_]

That was my point. By emigrating to Spain, for example, you not only save a fortune on heating but you also benefit from houses that are a fraction of the price of the UK.

I would go to the south of France, but that is not easily possible now, too many hoops to jump through showing guaranteed income, health insurance (not easily possible or cheap), etc.

We need a general election, we need the love of the EU and we need it now before we are frozen, bankrupt and dead.

[vetran]

Solar doesn't perform very well in the UK. It's just not sunny enough here.

A 100W solar panel only achieves anywhere near 100W in full sun. Even the wispiest cloud will greatly reduce the power output. And as for cloudy days, forget it.

If you live outside a city, and have the space, a wind turbine is probably a much better bet.

yeah nice to see expert opinion.

https://cat.org.uk/info-resources/fr...h%20per%20year.

Of course it’s not sunny all the time, and the output of PV solar panels will drop a little under cloud or on winter days, when the sun is weaker. In average UK weather conditions, you can expect one kilowatt of panels to generate between 700 and 900 units (kilowatt-hours, kWh) of electricity per year. So a 3.5kW south-facing domestic system will produce about 3,000kWh per year. Where you live will be a factor – for example Cornwall receives 30% more solar energy than northern Scotland.

For a detailed assessment of output by month you could use the European Commissions PV GIS online tool. Zoom in on the map there and click on your location, and set the correct slope and orientation (azimuth). The tool defaults to a 1kW array, so change the peak power to the sort of kilowatt rating you are thinking of installing.

[DealorNoDeal]

I would go to the south of France, but that is not easily possible now, too many hoops to jump through showing guaranteed income, health insurance (not easily possible or cheap), etc.

On the other hand, it should reduce the number of British chav scum living in places like Spain.

You see, there are some positives of B****t.

[AtW]

I would go to the south of France, but that is not easily possible now, too many hoops to jump through showing guaranteed income, health insurance (not easily possible or cheap)

[vetran]

I would go to the south of France, but that is not easily possible now, too many hoops to jump through showing guaranteed income, health insurance (not easily possible or cheap), etc.

We need a general election, we need the love of the EU and we need it now before we are frozen, bankrupt and dead.

https://www.longtermrentalsinfrance....er-brexit.html

no worse than moving to any other decent third country. Easier than the US or Australia.

You fancy some EU loving? I hear AssGoo is there!

[DealorNoDeal]

yeah nice to see expert opinion.

https://cat.org.uk/info-resources/fr...h%20per%20year.

Like I said, not very good.

"In average UK weather conditions, you can expect one kilowatt of panels to generate between 700 and 900 units (kilowatt-hours, kWh) of electricity per year."

That's just over 2 units per day. (Equivalent to the panel being in full sun for 2 hours per day.)

If you're outside a city, and have a decent sized garden, you may get better ROI with a wind turbine.

[AtW]

Mini-nukes from RR should do the trick