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[ladymuck]

One day, people will realise that there is no such thing as zero Covid and that Saj was right when he said we have to learn to live with it and not cower from it. His phrasing was insensitive but the attitude is correct.

(ugh, that's another chemical shower I need to have)

[dsc]

There wont be a fourth wave. Even the Spanish flu which was far worse than Covid only had 3 waves

"There were 3 different waves of illness during the pandemic, starting in March 1918 and subsiding by summer of 1919".

UK has now let Covid rip and has 90%+ antibodies in the population, so i don't expect a fourth wave. Other countries maybe a different story.

Last time I checked there weren't many flights back in the 1919 and generally people moved less around the world, so transmission was hugely limited.

Double jabs give you tulip ton of antibodies yet people still get and pass on the virus, also studies showed that your level of antibodies drop gradually up to the point of having no immunity. If you think it's all going to magically end, you are mistaken.

[d000hg]

The biggest thing you forgot is that while Covid is a virus, Covid is not flu.

I don't think they said it was flu. It is a good comparison as a pandemic though. Viruses tend to behave in quite predictable ways.

[SueEllen]

There wont be a fourth wave. Even the Spanish flu which was far worse than Covid only had 3 waves

"There were 3 different waves of illness during the pandemic, starting in March 1918 and subsiding by summer of 1919".

UK has now let Covid rip and has 90%+ antibodies in the population, so i don't expect a fourth wave. Other countries maybe a different story.

The biggest thing you forgot is that while Covid is a virus, Covid is not flu.

[Fraidycat]

the prominent figures recognised that a 4th wave is forthcoming. probably deliberately not saying the next wave to give the impression that we are out of the danger for now. just enough to get people out and about for the heard immunity to get through.

you can't scare the cows while taking them to the slaughterhouse

or maybe I am just paranoid... but I don't think so

There wont be a fourth wave. Even the Spanish flu which was far worse than Covid only had 3 waves

"There were 3 different waves of illness during the pandemic, starting in March 1918 and subsiding by summer of 1919".

UK has now let Covid rip and has 90%+ antibodies in the population, so i don't expect a fourth wave. Other countries maybe a different story.

[GigiBronz]

Another sign the third wave of Covid is OVER!
Hospitalisations in England FALL for first time since Delta variant took off
While UK's cases drop for ninth day in a row


Department of Health statistics show the average number of patients needing care stood at 785 on July 25, down on the day before (793).

It is the first time the figure — which is based on the seven-day average and offer a more reliable measure as to state of pressure on the NHS — has fallen since May 12.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-reveals.html

the prominent figures recognised that a 4th wave is forthcoming. probably deliberately not saying the next wave to give the impression that we are out of the danger for now. just enough to get people out and about for the heard immunity to get through.

you can't scare the cows while taking them to the slaughterhouse

or maybe I am just paranoid... but I don't think so

[Fraidycat]

Another sign the third wave of Covid is OVER!
Hospitalisations in England FALL for first time since Delta variant took off
While UK's cases drop for ninth day in a row


Department of Health statistics show the average number of patients needing care stood at 785 on July 25, down on the day before (793).

It is the first time the figure — which is based on the seven-day average and offer a more reliable measure as to state of pressure on the NHS — has fallen since May 12.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-reveals.html

[AtW]

""Prof Tim Spector, who runs the Zoe Covid Symptom Study, which uses an app to get people to report when they are suffering coronavirus symptoms, said his figures suggest cases are running at about twice the level recorded on the government’s dashboard. He said young people may be choosing not to get tested.

“It’s dropped something like 30% in two days, which is pretty much unheard of in pandemics, and remember this is happening without restrictions, without lockdowns, without some sudden event,” he told Sky News. “To me, it looks a bit fishy. It looks as if there’s some other explanation for this other than suddenly the virus has given up.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...vid-cases-fall

[AtW]

Herd immunity is when virus transmission stops due to enough people having been vaccinated/haditbefore, but based on US report Delta infects vaccinated also who can spread it.

Seems unlikely VZ is much better than Pfizer at neutralising Delta.

[Fraidycat]

Covid pandemic almost over for UK as population nears herd immunity - expert

Cases of Covid have been slowly declining over the last week, despite lockdown restrictions being almost completely lifted earlier this month.

Virologist Dr David Matthews from the University of Bristol insists it is likely to mean Britain is close to herd immunity.

He told the Telegraph: “In terms of herd immunity – by which we mean the virus has managed to reach everybody and therefore most people will have a level of immune memory – I suspect we’re very close to it.
“Assuming nothing truly spectacularly left field happens, then this pandemic is pretty much over for the UK.