EU Referendum: Do we enough information to take the correct decision?

[jamesbrown]

If there's no doubt then your way over here and max out your credit cards. UK Politics Betting from Paddy Power

I have (within reason), but not on credit. I prefer to punt on shares though; never been much of a pure gambler. I'm looking at Barclays and EasyJet as two companies that are likely to be particularly sensitive to Brexit and are not massively over-valued (like the builders, for example). I'll probably punt on these around 10th June, because this is a pure punt on the referendum outcome, not a particular view on these shares more generally. My only concern is that it's going to get priced in to some degree as we approach 23rd (otherwise I'd leave it until 22nd), but this will happen with Sterling before shares. Share prices have been relatively insensitive to referendum speculation; still being driven by US rate expectations, largely.

To be clear, I'm expecting a Remain vote.

[AtW]

Sterling gone up today

Maybe I should vote OUT - make a killing on exports, buy all flats in the building and kick everybody out so that I could have peace and quiet.

[DimPrawn]

Sterling gone up today

Maybe I should vote OUT - make a killing on exports, buy all flats in the building and kick everybody out so that I could have peace and quiet.

Did you buy a flat or a penthouse apartment (i.e. you have the whole top floor and roof terrace). No way I'd live in a flat, but a penthouse with roof garden is okay for a singleton.

[darmstadt]

Did you buy a flat or a penthouse apartment (i.e. you have the whole top floor and roof terrace). No way I'd live in a flat, but a penthouse with roof garden is okay for a singleton.

I have some British people living on the top floor penthouse with roof garden of our apartment block (I have the bottom floor because I'm ****ed if I'm going to walk up the stairs when the lift is broken and I don't want to hear the downstairs neighbours either) which is actually the same size as mine and we both take up a whole floor unlike the people between us but what they don't realise is, that when they have a party or guests, I can hear every word they say clearly as it reflects off of the house over the road

[AtW]

Did you buy a flat or a penthouse apartment (i.e. you have the whole top floor and roof terrace). No way I'd live in a flat, but a penthouse with roof garden is okay for a singleton.

I've got 1/7th slice of the penthouse.

HTH

P.S. Recently somebody bought £1.8 mln penthouse in central Brum in a former warehouse branded 'utterly dreadful'

http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busi...-sold-10318452

I think I've met that guy

[Old Greg]

Did you buy a flat or a penthouse apartment (i.e. you have the whole top floor and roof terrace). No way I'd live in a flat, but a penthouse with roof garden is okay for a singleton.

With a simple pulley you could have a personal executive kebab delivery service.

[unemployed]

I've got 1/7th slice of the penthouse.

HTH

P.S. Recently somebody bought £1.8 mln penthouse in central Brum in a former warehouse branded 'utterly dreadful'

Birmingham's most expensive flat sold for £1.8m - Birmingham Post

I think I've met that guy

Did the penthouse expand over most of the Midlands?

[OwlHoot]

Interesting article by Tim Price, a well-known fund manager


2016-05-19 Tim Price: Why I'm Voting To Leave The European Union

On 23 June 2016, this British citizen will be voting to leave the European Union.

To me it’s clear: the EU has not only become too big for its own good, it’s too big to do hardly anything good.

Back in 1975 when the UK first confirmed membership in the EU (when it was called the European Economic Community), it made sense.

Britain has always thrived on international trade, and the EU promised more trade.

But that’s not what happened. The EU didn’t turn into a peaceful, efficient, multi-national trading bloc that enables commerce and prosperity.

Rather it has become an ever-expanding, unaccountable bureaucracy ruling over vastly disparate nations who are increasingly at odds with one another.

And it is precisely the size of this Leviathan that’s the problem… something that was first identified several decades ago by economist Leopold Kohr.

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Of all the world’s population centers, Europe is the slowest growing (i.e. most rapidly shrinking) in the world.

The promises of growth and prosperity proved hollow. Yet the Eurocrats want to give Europeans even more: more regulation, more negative interest rates, more size.

Perhaps ECB Governing Council member Vitas Vasiliauskas sums this up the best from his comments last week:

Markets say the ECB is done, their box is empty. But we are magic people. Each time we take something and give to the markets – a rabbit out of the hat.

Vasiliauskas is the perfect embodiment of the EU bureaucracy: they believe they are special people capable of performing miracles.

The arrogance and hubris in this statement are overwhelming and tell you everything you need to know about the unelected, unaccountable people who control our lives.

If you want to understand this issue even more, I highly recommend the documentary Brexit: The Movie.

http://www.brexitthemovie.com/

and some choice comments

Of my large circle of associates I know two, JUST TWO people who want the uk to remain in the eu.. one is a ******* fruit loop who only wants to stay because he wants the euro currency to save him paying exchange rates on his travels.. the other a raging alcoholic communist.

The opinion polls are fake.. just as the results of the vote will be fake. The brits are good at one thing though.. being polite.. the masses will shrug their shoulders at the loss of their country and simply continue doing as they're told whilst tipping their cap to the landed gentry (whether that be home grown or based in brussels).

******* sheep thats what we are.

Couldn't agree more. I know of no one, not one single person who is currently voting to stay. A few who will 'research it' (my daughter got a mouthful for that bulltulip...after all she's been living it for 30 years) and then 'decide' (what, 30 years not enough dear?').

Every public online poll (Twitter, Daily Mirror to name two) has Leave at over 80%.

Oh, and you're right. ******* sheep....unable to think outside the box they've been trained to think within.

[d000hg]

It's pretty sad people are generally so unable to see just how biased they are. What you want to happen is not what is going to happen, or what "everyone sensible" wants to happen; talking like it is just shows your lack of education in objective thinking.

[vetran]

question I ask remainers now is 'If we were asked to join now, would you?'

Most remainers issues seem to be 'its too difficult to leave' or 'If we leave they won't be nice to us anymore' or 'We can't make it on our own'.

those all sound like a teenager hiding in their bedroom.