EU Referendum: Do we enough information to take the correct decision?

[AtW]

Isn't he going on a summer holiday?

Talking of holidays, when is the next CUK holiday?

[xoggoth]

Stuck in my head now, mind you I got Cliff Richard recommendations

Funny, not getting the EU things now. Maybe it knows I've had a couple of vodkas and am feeling much less ranty. If you took LSD would Youtube have links to videos of purple space octopi?

[jamesbrown]

there's 4 bleeding videos about the EU on the list at right! WTF!

YT is a little scary like that. At least, if you're logged into a Google account, it makes all sort of weird extrapolations.

[vetran]

YT is a little scary like that. At least, if you're logged into a Google account, it makes all sort of weird extrapolations.

you got the one about the gerbils, who knew Pogle was THAT flexible

[Drei]

Yesterday at my Essex Rail station I had a guy shouting at the top of his voice "Vote Remain!" and giving out print outs which had no explanation whatsoever just more general BS. He was blocking the way and people had to barge through him... seriously, is this where our tax money is going?

I have still not seen a clear list of facts on the INs and OUTs.

Imagine if you were offered two contracts where only 3 features we put up front and had the pressure to chose between them. You could end up in Alaska, earning £5 a day, working in a mine or God knows what else.

[PurpleGorilla]

EU Referendum: Do we enough information to take the correct decision?

Yesterday at my Essex Rail station I had a guy shouting at the top of his voice "Vote Remain!" and giving out print outs which had no explanation whatsoever just more general BS. He was blocking the way and people had to barge through him... seriously, is this where our tax money is going?

I have still not seen a clear list of facts on the INs and OUTs.

Imagine if you were offered two contracts where only 3 features we put up front and had the pressure to chose between them. You could end up in Alaska, earning £5 a day, working in a mine or God knows what else.

It's a tough choice, but I think you can do it...





Do you need one of these too?

[jamesbrown]

I have still not seen a clear list of facts on the INs and OUTs.

I hear this a lot. Honest question: what are you anticipating?

There really are very few relevant "facts", and they are mostly historical or short-term in nature, together with a lot of conjecture about the long-term future. I think both sides would agree that there will be some turmoil in the financial markets for a period of time after a Brexit. Myself and others would argue that this is a long-term decision. In the long-term, the "facts" will depend on such critical factors as what the Gov't intends to do in formulating a new relationship with the EU and with other individual countries, and the extent to which they succeed. You can't really do much more than speculate on this, because both sides have a vested interest in describing the UK as either pathetically weak or implausibly strong.

None of the "facts" that you may obtain are likely to answer the relevant questions you might have. This is really a "gut" decision on long-term economics, democracy and society (and how you see the EU evolving), which is why Hamface and Gidiot are probably regretting the question having been posed

[TwoWolves]

Yesterday at my Essex Rail station I had a guy shouting at the top of his voice "Vote Remain!" and giving out print outs which had no explanation whatsoever just more general BS. He was blocking the way and people had to barge through him... seriously, is this where our tax money is going?

I have still not seen a clear list of facts on the INs and OUTs.

Imagine if you were offered two contracts where only 3 features we put up front and had the pressure to chose between them. You could end up in Alaska, earning £5 a day, working in a mine or God knows what else.

There are some things we know about remain that the BBC doesn't discuss:

1) More poor countries to join the union, giving them access to NHS and benefits here.

2) 250,000 EUR fine per migrant not taken by member states.

3) France and Italy close to crisis/default. We will have to help the Germans with the bailouts.

4) European army will get green light. They are certain to dismantle the UK forces in the process.

5) The EU financial crisis is getting far worse. Remain is shackling us to a sinking vessel.

[Old Greg]

Funny, not getting the EU things now. Maybe it knows I've had a couple of vodkas and am feeling much less ranty. If you took LSD would Youtube have links to videos of purple space octopi?

"octopuses", or "octopodes" if you really must.

[jamesbrown]

"octopuses", or "octopodes" if you really must.

One moose ----> two meese

Ergo:

One octopus ----> two octopeese