Britain would go to the ‘back of the queue' for US trade deals post-Brexit

[jamesbrown]

Ja, looks like Mitsubisih will have to up the price for their car to reflect Sterling's expect fall to say £2999 per month...

Mitsubisih. There's an idea. Cheap British ripoffs. Forde Feckass, Mitsubushy Town Box, Toyscrota Areola, etc. That's the revival of British manufacturing right there.

[WTFH]

Too many generalities coming from both sides.

I want to know:

What will happen to the car making Renaissance that has been spearheaded by primarily the Japanese in the last few decades.
What will happen to the factories and supply chains that make the wings for the Airbus.
How will this affect the last large world class manufacturing companies we have: BA and RR.
What have we got to trade with India and china
What happens to the 45% of our exports that goes to Europe.
How does this affect the City.
Etc.

It is curious:

What will happen to the car making Renaissance that has been spearheaded by primarily the Japanese in the last few decades.
What will happen to the factories and supply chains that make the wings for the Airbus.
How will this affect the last large world class manufacturing companies we have: BA and RR.
What have we got to trade with India and china
What happens to the 45% of our exports that goes to Europe.
How does this affect the City.

Why do I think this user is not what they appear to be?

[LondonManc]

Also factoring in the supposed decline in Sterling which would make prices more competitive.

Explains why Porsche freak AtW wants to remain, despite George wanting to as well.

[The_Equalizer]

Explains why Porsche freak AtW wants to remain, despite George wanting to as well.

He should buy second-hand (or pre-owned in posh car lexicon) just like all sensible people.

[sasguru]

Perhaps its not very surprising that the more intelligent and enterprising make the most of the opportunities that Europe offers and can quantify the possible disadvantages of leaving, while the innumerate and less intelligent - who, ironically, will be most negatively affected by Brexit - do not possess the analytical ability to understand Britain's real position in the world in 2016 (which is relatively weak due to a too-small industrial base), as opposed to some rosy-tinted, vague view that comes from the past.

[LondonManc]

Perhaps its not very surprising that the more intelligent and enterprising make the most of the opportunities that Europe offers and can quantify the possible disadvantages of leaving, while the innumerate and less intelligent - who, ironically, will be most negatively affected by Brexit - do not possess the analytical ability to understand Britain's real position in the world in 2016 (which is relatively weak due to a too-small industrial base), as opposed to some rosy-tinted, vague view that comes from the past.

How can you quantity a speculative exit? What will happen after an exit can reasonably talked up by Boris or used to play on fears of risk by Cameron. The "security at risk" line is absolute tripe; the EU doesn't provide security because that comes from NATO membership and the UN Security Council. The EU provides the ability for the Paris murderers to disappear quickly across a country border.

The Germans could be reined in decades ago by France but with them having little financial clout these days, Merkel et al have been left to run roughshod over Europe and dictate things.

[The_Equalizer]

How can you quantity a speculative exit? What will happen after an exit can reasonably talked up by Boris or used to play on fears of risk by Cameron. The "security at risk" line is absolute tripe; the EU doesn't provide security because that comes from NATO membership and the UN Security Council. The EU provides the ability for the Paris murderers to disappear quickly across a country border.

The Germans could be reined in decades ago by France but with them having little financial clout these days, Merkel et al have been left to run roughshod over Europe and dictate things.

Responding is a fatal mistake. You're not clever or rich enough to have an opinion.

[sasguru]

How can you quantity a speculative exit? What will happen after an exit can reasonably talked up by Boris or used to play on fears of risk by Cameron. The "security at risk" line is absolute tripe; the EU doesn't provide security because that comes from NATO membership and the UN Security Council. The EU provides the ability for the Paris murderers to disappear quickly across a country border.

The Germans could be reined in decades ago by France but with them having little financial clout these days, Merkel et al have been left to run roughshod over Europe and dictate things.

I prefer to believe the Nato and Army people who wrote to the Telegraph today to confirm that security is at risk.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...cour-to-the-w/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ter-protect-u/
Oh and we are not part of Shengen - everyone has to show their passport on entering the UK.

[sasguru]

Responding is a fatal mistake. You're not clever or rich enough to have an opinion.

In a democracy even stupid people are allowed to have an opinion and a vote.
It's not necessarily an informed or considered opinion though.
It's one of the disadvantages of democracy.

[vetran]

I prefer to believe the Nato and Army people who wrote to the Telegraph today to confirm that security is at risk.
Oh and we are not part of Shengen YET - everyone has to show their passport on entering the UK.

FTFY

remain = ever closer union.