Official Labour leadership thread

[Chuck]

Corbyn is a friend of the IRA, Christina Kirchner, Hamas, and a long list of other undesirables.

MI5 will no doubt have a substantial file on his connections and activities.

He will also become a Privy Councillor by virtue of his new job. He will have access to State information that his previous comments suggest are not safe with him.

I sense a constitutional crisis; his job gives him access to information that he should not have.

I wonder how they'll get around that.

[Gumbo Robot]

Corbyn is a friend of the IRA, Christina Kirchner, Hamas, and a long list of other undesirables.

MI5 will no doubt have a substantial file on his connections and activities.

He will also become a Privy Councillor by virtue of his new job. He will have access to State information that his previous comments suggest are not safe with him.

I sense a constitutional crisis; his job gives him access to information that he should not have.

I wonder how they'll get around that.

Surprised they haven't made a bigger deal of his arch climate change sceptic brother Piers.

That should lose him some support amongst the chatterati just by association.

"Embarrassing" family members have been used to good effect before. Remember Jimmy Carter's brother?

[PurpleGorilla]

Corbyn is a friend of the IRA, Christina Kirchner, Hamas, and a long list of other undesirables.

MI5 will no doubt have a substantial file on his connections and activities.

He will also become a Privy Councillor by virtue of his new job. He will have access to State information that his previous comments suggest are not safe with him.

I sense a constitutional crisis; his job gives him access to information that he should not have.

I wonder how they'll get around that.

Do you want to live in a secret society?

[DodgyAgent]

Do you want to live in a secret society?

Does that mean everything on Mi5 books goes out into the public domain?

[d000hg]

Corbyn is a friend of the IRA, Christina Kirchner, Hamas, and a long list of other undesirables.

MI5 will no doubt have a substantial file on his connections and activities.

He will also become a Privy Councillor by virtue of his new job. He will have access to State information that his previous comments suggest are not safe with him.

I sense a constitutional crisis; his job gives him access to information that he should not have.

I wonder how they'll get around that.

If this was known, dangerous fact rather than hysterical smear gossip, something would've been done already. He wouldn't have been permitted to stand (is there a mechanism for this?) or would've been 'pressured' to withdraw.

[PurpleGorilla]

Does that mean everything on Mi5 books goes out into the public domain?

Of course not.

[Jog On]

If this was known, dangerous fact rather than hysterical smear gossip, something would've been done already. He wouldn't have been permitted to stand (is there a mechanism for this?) or would've been 'pressured' to withdraw.

+1

I'm wondering why he wasn't pressured to withdraw when it looked like he might win, I can only assume that the establishment were and still are in "then they laugh at you" stage.

Do people actually believe he is 'friends' with all these 'enemies' of the West? At least do some due diligence before quoting the daily mail and Sun.

He's an anti-war pacifist and believes in getting people round the negotiating table to de-escalate conflicts and resolve them peacefully. According to 'the establishment' this is a very bad thing because perpetual armed conflicts support the arms industry so being anti-war is somehow anti-business.

This is going to get very interesting and I'm wondering how it's all going to play out as he's not just going to go up against our own military-industrial complex but the yanks aren't exactly tolerant of that sort of thing.

But I suppose they are too busy with trying to get their preferred candidate into the White house which doesn't seem to be going to plan either...

Interesting times - bring on PMQs and a squirming CMD!

[AtW]

I have always thought that the taxation of dividends was a gapping hole, most people do not understand it, so it is an easy target to collect money. I can see dividends being taxed at the usual rates in the long run.

Yes, thanks to Gideon now it's trivial to change dividend tax rates, it's a big move that HE DID so next Labour Govts would benefit greatly from, but HE STARTED IT.

There was no hole with dividends other than NICs for personal service companies, what Gideon did is worse than Gordon Brown when he robbed Pension Funds by disallowing dividend tax credits for them, now Gideon did it for everybody!. That is the betrayal of supposed pro-business agenda that he claimed to champion.

[pjclarke]

Man who just got elected

[d000hg]

Yes, thanks to Gideon now it's trivial to change dividend tax rates, it's a big move that HE DID so next Labour Govts would benefit greatly from, but HE STARTED IT.

There was no hole with dividends other than NICs for personal service companies, what Gideon did is worse than Gordon Brown when he robbed Pension Funds by disallowing dividend tax credits for them, now Gideon did it for everybody!. That is the betrayal of supposed pro-business agenda that he claimed to champion.

Give it a rest. Change the record. Etc.