Immigration or humanitarian crisis?

[DodgyAgent]

Russell Brand has achieved **** all apart from getting himself in the press. Do you know what the others actually did, have you in fact ever heard of any of them? You sound exactly like a left wing radical with your arguments, you do realise that don't you?

I am not disputing what the others have done though quite why you include Tony Benn I am not sure - as he epitomises everything I say about lefties. Tony Benn left £5m to his children in his will and not to good causes | Daily Mail Online

As for Einstein, and the others they were great inventors, painters, writers. This does not make them credible authorities on politics and how the rest of us should live. even worse they were all ego driven (for good or for bad) narcissists who would look at the world through the prism of their elevated status and privilege. mark twain was a rich man who squandered his money quite how he dear lecture the rest of us on the evils of capitalism I do not know.

[xoggoth]

Too many seem to be in denial about human nature. Put people with very different views about major issues and the direction of society side by side, when they co-exist but do not mix, conflicts are inevitable.

Look at the riots and terrorism in France, the ongoing tensions and problems in places like Paris's banlieues or Marseilles that triggered them. That is the future of Europe unless we wake up.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europ...on-noise-video

http://www.economist.com/news/europe...pecially-among

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/41...ization-france

Tolerance is all very good but most people, on both sides of the divides, don't have it and that is the reality we need to work with.

[SueEllen]

Too many seem to be in denial about human nature. Put people with very different views about major issues and the direction of society side by side, when they co-exist but do not mix, conflicts are inevitable.

Look at the riots and terrorism in France, the ongoing tensions and problems in places like Paris's banlieues or Marseilles that triggered them. That is the future of Europe unless we wake up.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europ...on-noise-video

http://www.economist.com/news/europe...pecially-among

France is not the UK, the Netherlands, Portugal, Belgium, Spain or Italy. They all treat people from their ex-colonies differently. For example the French pretended that everyone was French to hide the fact some of them don't like people who look different to them. Their Front National party gets more votes then the BNP ever got in the UK.

Muslims in Pakistan don't have the same culture as Muslims in Malaysia, Egypt, the Gambia, Turkey etc. For example if you wear a headscarf in Turkey as a women you won't get a job.

[darmstadt]

If you can give me a 100% cast iron guarantee that none of the refugees are

a) Interested in a free lunch
b) Actually going to start a terrorist cell in Europe under the guise of being refugees

Then we have nothing to worry about...

If you cannot give that guarantee then there are plenty of recent news videos of refugees giving it the old 'Allah Akbar' and ***** do police to be found.

Do not get me wrong it is a very very small minority who are trying to use this crisis as a way to establish terrorist cells in Europe but it only takes a few to kill many innocents doesn't it

So it is your daughter to die or some refugees from somewhere have to go live somewhere else?

Are you a migrant only I take it that English isn't your first language

[minestrone]

I was going to mention this morning it would only be matter of time before they got the water cannons out.

[minestrone]

Those Hungarians don't mess about when pepper spraying kids.

[d000hg]

If you can give me a 100% cast iron guarantee that none of the refugees are

a) Interested in a free lunch
b) Actually going to start a terrorist cell in Europe under the guise of being refugees

Then we have nothing to worry about...

If you cannot give that guarantee then there are plenty of recent news videos of refugees giving it the old 'Allah Akbar' and ***** do police to be found.

Do not get me wrong it is a very very small minority who are trying to use this crisis as a way to establish terrorist cells in Europe but it only takes a few to kill many innocents doesn't it

So it is your daughter to die or some refugees from somewhere have to go live somewhere else?

Can you give me a 100% guarantee that no refugees who get in by claiming asylum in the normal way are dodgy? Or people moving here for work/university who pass all the checks? Or people coming here on holiday?

It's not hard to get into the UK or EU through the proper channels - or pay to be smuggled in -posing as a refugee would be a pretty daft way for ISIS to try and get in.

[original PM]

I was going to mention this morning it would only be matter of time before they got the water cannons out.

Those Hungarians don't mess about when pepper spraying kids.

Yes indeed maybe one of the first things they need to learn is that actions have consequences and saying god told me to do it ain't gonna cut the mustard.

[Flashman]

Those Hungarians don't mess about when pepper spraying kids.

Top parenting tip for today. Don't take your kids along to a riot.


Although would if it be worth if that picture on the BBC gets you what you want?

[mrdonuts]

on the tv tonight it looked more like an invasion