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Rehabilitation of Offenders

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    #51
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    He's not free to work.

    He's a registered sex offender and also on probation. He can only take on work with the approval of his probation officer otherwise he will be back inside.

    Can he work in football? Yes but only in the UK, and not doing anything that puts him in contact with children or other vulnerable people.
    What rubbish. Has his probation officer stopped him? Are the clubs he wants to play for abroad? Does the law prevent him from working at a football club?

    The answer is no to all of those. He is free to work, within the law, as I said.

    The mob rule which you appear to support has no basis in law.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
      What rubbish. Has his probation officer stopped him? Are the clubs he wants to play for abroad? Does the law prevent him from working at a football club?

      The answer is no to all of those. He is free to work, within the law, as I said.

      The mob rule which you appear to support has no basis in law.
      But it's not illegal to protest, is it? Its not illegal to discriminate on the basis of an unspent conviction, is it?

      The point is he has no particular right to work - merely the right to seek it and the same protection under anti discrimination laws that we are all afforded.

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        #53
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        Please reread my post before going off on one. The first bloke was found innocent because there was a reasonable assumption that she consented or he could have believed she consented. i.e. a reasonable doubt that he was guilty.
        Ah yes, in this case it's ok - reasonable doubt.

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          #54
          Just out of interest, if she was unconscious then how does she know that he had sex with her?
          Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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            #55
            Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
            Just out of interest, if she was unconscious then how does she know that he had sex with her?
            If you read the docs, she claims to have woken up, naked and alone, with no memory of what had happened and called the police.

            Presumably medical examinations and DNA confirmed they had sex, or he admitted they'd had sex (which he apparently did).

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              #56
              I've not really gone in to the actual case in much depth to be honest so haven't really got an opinion on the act and the bloke but I have to say the diatribe people post about it on facebook etc get me really annoyed. People just voicing completely unfounded crap really get's my goat. There was a woman on my friends timeline sprouting off about how disgusted she was at him and people wanting to employ him etc but she made a strong point about him and his girlfriend 'swanning round like he's done nothing wrong' Swanning around? Where the **** did she get that idea from? Every picture I have seen of them both they look like they are hanging on to each other from grim death and I imagine every time they step out of their house must be an utter nightmare. It's made up crap like that which really get's my goat. I don't want to defend him cause I don't really know the in's and out's of it but can't help wanting to argue with people posting that kind of crap.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #57
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Every picture I have seen of them both they look like they are hanging on to each other from grim death and I imagine every time they step out of their house must be an utter nightmare. It's made up crap like that which really get's my goat. I don't want to defend him cause I don't really know the in's and out's of it but can't help wanting to argue with people posting that kind of crap.
                I'd be very surprised if they were not getting death threats as well.

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                  #58
                  In the olden days, if a bird asked your mate back for an ale, then said youse could all come as well, it was understood that you formed an orderly queue.

                  Nowadays, it seems that you have to get individual authority or end up in the nick. Another great British tradition, 'pulling a train' , bites the dust.

                  I bet there are thousands of birds out there , every Friday night, getting rsi from filling out the paperwork
                  (\__/)
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                  ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                    #59
                    Interesting Tweet that considers Graham Taylor's comments on this and Marlon King's similar charge in 2009...

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
                      What rubbish. Has his probation officer stopped him? Are the clubs he wants to play for abroad? Does the law prevent him from working at a football club?

                      The answer is no to all of those. He is free to work, within the law, as I said.

                      The mob rule which you appear to support has no basis in law.
                      Wrong on the abroad one.

                      A club in Malta were interested in signing him, but a statement was released saying he couldn't work abroad.
                      Ministry of Justice steps in to prevent Ched Evans from playing abroad | Football | The Guardian

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