Salmond "We can take Scotland in two weeks"

[mudskipper]

Why are the 'yes' posters apolitical, but the 'no' posters all Scottish Labour branded?

And is Scottish Labour the same as Labour or is it a different party?

[TestMangler]

That can be disregarded, it was done by radical independence.

And the you gov poll had a sunstantially larger number of nos. It was the weightings that gave the yes 51%.

Sorry, should have run the idea of mentioning past you before I did.

I wish I'd actually listened to you before because, in the course of this thread you've told us with great certainty, everything that's going to happen, post vote. Thanks for that. Think I might vote 'No' now.

[Zero Liability]

Paul Krugman, a left wing economist, thinks maybe it's a wee bit daft too....

He has a Nobel prize too.

Yes, on a topic that is completely unrelated to and far less controversial than the vast majority of his inane commentary.

The fact of the matter is few people in the establishment are keen on seeing a secession go through, particularly in the developed West. A lot of what the likes of Goldman Sachs etc. are saying is probably true, to the degree that such things can be forecast with any accuracy, but what it means is that there will be some hardship whilst Scotland transitions, which the political establishment is trying to paint as the end of the world. Where the issue arises is that Salmond is hardly making this transparent, but in this day and age, people can research for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

[jemb]

Yes, on a topic that is completely unrelated to and far less controversial than the vast majority of his inane commentary.

'Less controversial' that's right, because, like a lot of economic commentators he sees the bonkers Yes it'll-all'-be-allright no idea how it'll work out approach to things a bit tulip.

There'll be an 80%+ turnout. Gotta love democracy

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.

[TestMangler]

Why are the 'yes' posters apolitical, but the 'no' posters all Scottish Labour branded?

And is Scottish Labour the same as Labour or is it a different party?

The 'No' campaign, when it decided to campaign, decided that it couldn't front itself with the current prime minister, so is largely Labour influenced.

What is worse than that, and only Scots will have seen it, is that The Belters Together leaflet of 'facts' was the same colours as the official envelopes containing the polling cards, and were delivered, in the most part, on the same day.

[Zero Liability]

'Less controversial' that's right, because, like a lot of economic commentators he sees the bonkers Yes it'll-all'-be-allright no idea how it'll work out approach to things a bit tulip.

There'll be an 80%+ turnout. Gotta love democracy

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.

The only reason I mention that is because I don't see how his Nobel prize or political alignment are of any relevance. Also, it's hardly news that many establishment left-wingers, particularly in the US, are of an anti-secessionist bent, in general. The "No" camp is throwing out as much nationalist tripe as the "Yes" campaign, so I don't think either party can be excused in this matter. Then again, I believe in political self-determination, and that the Scots have the right to decide whether they want to be part of the UK or not irrespective of the economic consequences, which could initially be punitive. Such is life.

[jemb]

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.

but what it means is that there will be some hardship whilst Scotland transitions, which the political establishment is trying to paint as the end of the world. Where the issue arises is that Salmond is hardly making this transparent, but in this day and age, people can research for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

if you YOU lose your job then it'll be the end of the World.

We're all lucky we can find a job south of the border (assuming we're allowed in). The people who will pay for this adventure will be the people who will not be able to find work. I guess they can watch the Presidential Salmond/SNP motorcade sweep by.

This isn't Braveheart, this is people's lives and a period of 'hardship whilst Scotland transitions' will be tulip for the poor sods who have to suffer it.
Where is the compassion in that?

[TestMangler]

if you YOU lose your job then it'll be the end of the World.

We're all lucky we can find a job south of the border (assuming we're allowed in). The people who will pay for this adventure will be the people who will not be able to find work. I guess they can watch the Presidential Salmond/SNP motorcade sweep by.

This isn't Braveheart, this is people's lives and a period of 'hardship whilst Scotland transitions' will be tulip for the poor sods who have to suffer it.
Where is the compassion in that?

So, post referendum, Salmond is now going to be the 'President' ??

That's funny, I'm sure I read on here that he would be 'king'.

Is no one willing to wait for the first election, if there is a yes vote to find out who is in charge ?

[minestrone]

Sorry, should have run the idea of mentioning past you before I did.

I wish I'd actually listened to you before because, in the course of this thread you've told us with great certainty, everything that's going to happen, post vote. Thanks for that. Think I might vote 'No' now.

You do some amount of pish to be honest.

You need to get off that island, stop dipping your sister and get a life.

[TestMangler]

You do some amount of pish to be honest.

You need to get off that island, stop dipping your sister and get a life.

You mean my sister that's got terminal leukaemia ?

You're funny as **** you. Any time you want to meet up in Glasgow to discuss it further, please feel free to let me know.

Dick.