Indian agencies

[vwdan]

The problem is that a lot of large companies don't actually know they are being ripped off. They've got rid of almost all their in-house technical capability and tried to compensate by loading themselves up with "Process" to make up the shortfall.

They've long ago lost the ability to judge how long a task should take. 30k to make a one-line change to a stored procedure? No problem at all. Where do I sign?

Fair one!

[tomtomagain]

The even have a trendy management name for it ... Onshoring... All the rage right now in the US.

It is coming full circle, there is a reason the Indians are trying to flood the UK right now. They all can't get into the US anymore, in addition if you think we hate them, they really hate them in the USA. I did a gig out there a few years back with a couple of Indians on the team, not welcome at all.

I don't believe it will go full-circle as in companies returning to a era of employing large numbers of technical staff in-house. However I do believe that the cracks in the current offshore business model are wide and irreversible.

My prediction is that within 5 - 10 years we will see significant layoffs among the offshore service providers such as Wipro/Infosys/TCS/Cognizant.

[stek]

The problem with refusing to work with Bob consultancies/agencies is that it plays straight into their hands.

They don't give a tulip if the end clients project is done on time or not. They can say "We advertised the role. No takers. Now we can get more off-shore staff in".

But helping bring more of the their mates in goes against their natural instinct to fook each other over......

[SueEllen]

But helping bring more of the their mates in goes against their natural instinct to fook each other over......

They help their cousins.

[stek]

They help their cousins.

Who are also their wives.....

[SueEllen]

Who are also their wives.....

Depends on their religion....

I can't wait until the only off-shoring is in the EU.

[TheFaQQer]

Depends on their religion....

I can't wait until the only off-shoring is in the EU.

"near-shoring" as management refer to it now

[eek]

"near-shoring" as management refer to it now

Yep seen it used entertainingly....

[cojak]

Yep seen it used entertainingly....

And where there's entertainment...

[eek]

And where there's entertainment...

Exactly. In that case unfortunately it was just moaning down the pub as I've never worked at the poor company who had had T-systems inflicted on them.