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    #21
    The money to be had from Training is pumping out "Standard" Courses (or at best BullTuliping that its been "Tailored" for the customer) cos as has been said prep for a decent Course is too "heavy"......

    I have a contact who makes a good living "Training" - she pumps out her Standard Courses "Tailored" with Glossy covers, Client Co headers etc.
    She starts by charging 2 days prep plus x days for the course..... but will negotiate down to 1 day prep...... if she gets a series of courses she is laughing...... but she sometimes ends up doing a sort of "loss leader"....

    She re-does the (basic) course work every few months - during bench time.....

    But (and its a big but) she does basic Generic courses...... if you really have to "write" a course for a client you really have to charge for the prep..... and there can be a lot of it......

    I do a lot of Training/Mentoring - but lots of my Training "Stuff" is nailed together from POC Presentations and the like.... and the actual Training Material is "Standard but Tweaked" with new (ClientCo specific) screen shots etc...... and I do all the prep and the Training on my standard day rates....... I have only ever done one gig that was specifically Training (and not Process design/Implementation etc) and that was about 6months after I did the implementation and prepared the course for "Someone else"...... ("Someone else" couldn't really hack standing in front of 10-15 people so they bought me back t do it...... I will add that "Someone else" was perfectly able to do it when I stood next to them.... it was just a confidence thing!)

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      #22
      Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
      Good luck with the training as a side gig cojak , the last bunch of cheeky bast***s from Kuala Lumpur who asked told me that I would have to do the seminar gratis because their seminars were so prestigious that the networking opportunities that would come my way were compensation enough! Yeah.............. Like I'm gonna fall for that line! (I like KL though, shame.)
      Ooh, that's a good one!

      "You see, Ms Plumber, you really should unblock my toilet at your own expense - although my faeces may appear glutinous, I can assure you that once word has spread, you will be eagerly sought by people whose excrement has an adhesive quality that will bring you world renown in the clearance thereof!"

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        #23
        Originally posted by Drewster View Post
        The money to be had from Training is pumping out "Standard" Courses (or at best BullTuliping that its been "Tailored" for the customer) cos as has been said prep for a decent Course is too "heavy"......

        I have a contact who makes a good living "Training" - she pumps out her Standard Courses "Tailored" with Glossy covers, Client Co headers etc.
        She starts by charging 2 days prep plus x days for the course..... but will negotiate down to 1 day prep...... if she gets a series of courses she is laughing...... but she sometimes ends up doing a sort of "loss leader"....

        She re-does the (basic) course work every few months - during bench time.....

        But (and its a big but) she does basic Generic courses...... if you really have to "write" a course for a client you really have to charge for the prep..... and there can be a lot of it......

        I do a lot of Training/Mentoring - but lots of my Training "Stuff" is nailed together from POC Presentations and the like.... and the actual Training Material is "Standard but Tweaked" with new (ClientCo specific) screen shots etc...... and I do all the prep and the Training on my standard day rates....... I have only ever done one gig that was specifically Training (and not Process design/Implementation etc) and that was about 6months after I did the implementation and prepared the course for "Someone else"...... ("Someone else" couldn't really hack standing in front of 10-15 people so they bought me back t do it...... I will add that "Someone else" was perfectly able to do it when I stood next to them.... it was just a confidence thing!)
        And that's why I've never really bothered with bog-standard training, it's a lot of outlay for what is a modest income (unless you get other trainers to run your courses after you've created them, and then you need to become a salesman to bring the punters in.)

        I don't even bother putting my CIPD trainer's qualifications on my CV these days.
        "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
        - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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          #24
          Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
          Ooh, that's a good one!

          "You see, Ms Plumber, you really should unblock my toilet at your own expense - although my faeces may appear glutinous, I can assure you that once word has spread, you will be eagerly sought by people whose excrement has an adhesive quality that will bring you world renown in the clearance thereof!"
          Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
          Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Drewster View Post
            The money to be had from Training is pumping out "Standard" Courses (or at best BullTuliping that its been "Tailored" for the customer) cos as has been said prep for a decent Course is too "heavy"......

            I have a contact who makes a good living "Training" - she pumps out her Standard Courses "Tailored" with Glossy covers, Client Co headers etc.
            She starts by charging 2 days prep plus x days for the course..... but will negotiate down to 1 day prep...... if she gets a series of courses she is laughing...... but she sometimes ends up doing a sort of "loss leader"....

            She re-does the (basic) course work every few months - during bench time.....

            But (and its a big but) she does basic Generic courses...... if you really have to "write" a course for a client you really have to charge for the prep..... and there can be a lot of it......

            I do a lot of Training/Mentoring - but lots of my Training "Stuff" is nailed together from POC Presentations and the like.... and the actual Training Material is "Standard but Tweaked" with new (ClientCo specific) screen shots etc...... and I do all the prep and the Training on my standard day rates....... I have only ever done one gig that was specifically Training (and not Process design/Implementation etc) and that was about 6months after I did the implementation and prepared the course for "Someone else"...... ("Someone else" couldn't really hack standing in front of 10-15 people so they bought me back t do it...... I will add that "Someone else" was perfectly able to do it when I stood next to them.... it was just a confidence thing!)
            Jesus! I hope you presentations are clearer than that post!

            £375 - 450 a day for a trainer!? Dont think I've ever come across a trainer whether in IT or not, as being worth that.
            I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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              #26
              You haven't met them all then...
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #27
                Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                Jesus! I hope you presentations are clearer than that post!

                £375 - 450 a day for a trainer!? Dont think I've ever come across a trainer whether in IT or not, as being worth that.
                In my experience that is exceptional for an IT Trainer but is not unusual for a specialised ERP Trainer (SAP or Oracle etc.).
                Signatures.....what's the point?

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