Inside IR35 ‘tasks’

[northernladuk]

So is it still accurate to refer to myself as a contractor or should I be using another term? ‘I am effectively a no-rights employee’ might result in a few weird looks

So there are three aspects here. What you are, how you are taxed and how you are paid.

You are a contractor, contingent, supplier, temp. Any term that covers the Time and Materials way you work. No different to an outside guy. Tasks and responsibilities maybe different but you are engaged through a contract

You are inside for tax purposes. This makes you 'the same' or 'effectively' a pseduo employee but that just means you are taxed like an employee. These are woolly terms that say what you look like but you are still an inside contractor

You are employed by a brolly just get paid and this is driven by your tax situation.

So the top one is important. You are a contractor. The difference is you are under a different tax regime and other measures have to come in to play to meet that tax situation.

[dsc]

...I must set up my intranet profile (I do have access to the internet) with information about me, ‘follow’ at least five ‘colleagues’ and write three sentences about how I have recently demonstrated living the company’s values.

Sorry, I know this isn't an answer to your question, but what sort of nightmarish corp sh*te is this? is this a fin tech company?

[BlasterBates]

This sounds like the sort of rules that most people don't bother with even if you're an employee. I would simply put in the essential contact information. I'm sure no-one will be too worried about whether you can demonstrate the company's values.

[ladymuck]

This sounds like the sort of rules that most people don't bother with even if you're an employee. I would simply put in the essential contact information. I'm sure no-one will be too worried about whether you can demonstrate the company's values.

Sounds like the company values are to be time wasting admin junkies

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I am "enjoying" a spell of permiedom due to the PSC bans everywhere - I have missed the deadline to set my objectives in line with company objectives "cascaded" down. Missed the the cascade somewhere and I am certainly not going to waste any time looking. So far zero hassle from boss who in any case has great tech skills but very limited English or management ability but generally leaves me in peace.

[d000hg]

There seems little point resisting if you're Inside, you're getting paid to do it.

I don't think the "all staff training" is particularly relevant though. Working practices, security, fire safety are all things that seem reasonable even if you were Outside.

[eek]

This sounds like the sort of rules that most people don't bother with even if you're an employee. I would simply put in the essential contact information. I'm sure no-one will be too worried about whether you can demonstrate the company's values.

Yep - it's the sort of thing I hated so would just treat with the contempt it deserved.

The only exception I can think of is really large firms where it may be useful if you need help from elsewhere - so I wouldn't care if I was doing a standard dev role - but would be battling to create relationships if I was a end client facing consultant

[jmo21]

I am working inside IR35, and have received a new starter email telling me I must set up my intranet profile (I do have access to the internet) with information about me, ‘follow’ at least five ‘colleagues’ and write three sentences about how I have recently demonstrated living the company’s values.

Sounds like at least a mornings work.

[ladymuck]

There seems little point resisting if you're Inside, you're getting paid to do it.

I don't think the "all staff training" is particularly relevant though. Working practices, security, fire safety are all things that seem reasonable even if you were Outside.

If I were inside, I'd take all the (useful) training they offer - especially if the company has a tie-in with the likes of LinkedIn Learning or Pluralsight or similar outfits where you'd normally have to pay a subscription.

[NotAllThere]

...and write three sentences about how I have recently demonstrated living the company’s values....

Here's one for you

"I recently took on a new employee, but denied them any employment rights by taking them through an umbrella company".