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Anyone who has 'went perm', how has it been?
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostEnough about your marriage, we're talking about perm vs contract here.Comment
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Originally posted by vwdan View PostDon't be silly, it's nothing like my marriage. I can't afford to leave (I kid I kid!)
Seriously, though, back on topic.
Had a sinking, claustrophobic, feeling the moment I got the contract. Lasted ten months, left with nowhere to go.
Why did you go perm?
What went badly?The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostWas this a perm job and if so:
Why did you go perm?
What went badly?
Anyway, I reached out to an old client (who had since been absorbed into a larger org) for some insider knowledge. Just a casual chat, see if they'd worked with the company/team I was interviewing with etc. When they found out I was at least half considering permie, they sent a director to interview me and matched my contract take home. So from a bit of a "half pondering" situation, I was left with a bit of an offer I couldn't refuse.
(I should add, these aren't huge numbers compared to some banded around here! It wasn't a six figure job or anything)
It's easy for me to blame the job, because it certainly had a lot of flaws (not least of which, they didn't *really* know what they wanted to do with me) but the truth is I just wasn't ready for permie life again. I wasn't exaggerating, as soon as the contract came through and I read about the holiday policy, the sickness policy, rules for this, rules for that I had cold feet. The cash was nice, but I never really settled into the role.
After ten months, the company was brought out and I just called it quits. The bigger company already had a division doing what I was doing, so figured I couldn't be arsed to deal with the incoming politics. Went back to contracting, very happily.
Although there is plenty about the job I can point to that I disliked, it has really scared me off permie roles. I've come to really love contracting, and I think I'll find it very very hard if I have to go back.Last edited by vwdan; 7 May 2020, 15:18.Comment
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Originally posted by vwdan View PostYeah, it was a perm job. It was back in 2015, so I'd only been contracting 2.5 years. It was a bit of an odd situation - I was actually half pondering another permie role at a different org that I was being pressed for (I don't like the phrase headhunted as they weren't offering me the job outright, but they were very keen to talk).
Anyway, I reached out to an old client (who had since been absorbed into a larger org) for some insider knowledge. Just a casual chat, see if they'd worked with the company/team I was interviewing with etc. When they found out I was at least half considering permie, they sent a director to interview me and matched my contract take home. So from a bit of a "half pondering" situation, I was left with a bit of an offer I couldn't refuse.
(I should add, these aren't huge numbers compared to some banded around here! It wasn't a six figure job or anything)
It's easy for me to blame the job, because it certainly had a lot of flaws (not least of which, they didn't *really* know what they wanted to do with me) but the truth is I just wasn't ready for permie life again. I wasn't exaggerating, as soon as the contract came through and I read about the holiday policy, the sickness policy, rules for this, rules for that I had cold feet. The cash was nice, but I never really settled into the role.
After ten months, the company was brought out and I just called it quits. The bigger company already had a division doing what I was doing, so figured I couldn't be arsed to deal with the incoming politics. Went back to contracting, very happily.
I think not knowing how to use you is probably the key, that and you'd only just gone contracting. Getting fed up of living away after for the most of ten years is something different. If I could guarantee at least 9 months of contract work every year within reasonably easy commute of my house, I'd never have considered going perm again. Work-life balance >>>> money.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYeah, I've never been too worried about the holiday rules. As long as I can get a good two-week chill somewhere, that's fine by me. Typically 30 days is enough to have the breaks that I want. Sickness policies have got stricter because firms often have call centre staff taking the p**s and everyone gets the same blanket policy.
I think not knowing how to use you is probably the key, that and you'd only just gone contracting. Getting fed up of living away after for the most of ten years is something different. If I could guarantee at least 9 months of contract work every year within reasonably easy commute of my house, I'd never have considered going perm again. Work-life balance >>>> money.
I'm certainly not "anti-permie", but for me it cemented how much of contracting I enjoyedComment
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I’m not up for permie unless I was a contractor first to get the vibe. The place I’m at is mainly permanents. The boss is awful no people skills at all, he expects no chat nothing but work, work, when we were all in the office. Coffee breaks he frowned on and you are expected to make up time if you’ve time to make a drink I kid you not! Micro manager too in the extreme. I could say more but wary on a forum. Suffice to say glad I’m short term as you never really know til you join. For the permies their payrises, bonus, shares etc dictated by this moron so they’ve to jump through hoops be always available and online , show off in meetings blah blah blah to keep him onside and it’s an impossible task as he wants blood! I’d rather poke my eyes out than be beholding... much happier in contracting world and not selling your soul for a bonus /pay rise!!Comment
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Originally posted by Cookielove View PostI’m not up for permie unless I was a contractor first to get the vibe. The place I’m at is mainly permanents. The boss is awful no people skills at all, he expects no chat nothing but work, work, when we were all in the office. Coffee breaks he frowned on and you are expected to make up time if you’ve time to make a drink I kid you not! Micro manager too in the extreme. I could say more but wary on a forum. Suffice to say glad I’m short term as you never really know til you join. For the permies their payrises, bonus, shares etc dictated by this moron so they’ve to jump through hoops be always available and online , show off in meetings blah blah blah to keep him onside and it’s an impossible task as he wants blood! I’d rather poke my eyes out than be beholding... much happier in contracting world and not selling your soul for a bonus /pay rise!!
We have all worked for tossers like this, part of the reason we are freelance/contract.
qhHe had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.
I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.
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Originally posted by elsergiovolador View PostI'd rather die in a ditch than go perm ever again.⭐️ Gold Star ContractorComment
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I wonder which opportunities site adds filtering inside / outside first?
I am tired of looking at 11 offers and learning most of them are inside after opening the details.Comment
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