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How do you handle disgruntled permanent staff and management

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    Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
    Well, this morning I got an email from the agent. Apparently the client is very unhappy that I've handed my notice in. They've told me that they want me to work my notice period.

    I've basically told them that I have personal business that I need to attend to and will be unavailable to work said notice period. Essentially threatening me for breach of contract.

    They made me feel like they couldn't wait to get me out of there and now I'm out, they're trying to suck me back in.
    Is it the client or the agent who is threatening you with breach?
    At this stage, make sure you have everything in writing.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
      Well, this morning I got an email from the agent. Apparently the client is very unhappy that I've handed my notice in. They've told me that they want me to work my notice period.

      I've basically told them that I have personal business that I need to attend to and will be unavailable to work said notice period. Essentially threatening me for breach of contract.

      They made me feel like they couldn't wait to get me out of there and now I'm out, they're trying to suck me back in.
      Sounds like it's the pimp who wants you to work NP so he/she gets their cut. Damned if you do...

      Crap situation to be in, hope you get it sorted. Who'd be a contractor?

      qh
      He had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.

      I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.

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        Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
        Well, this morning I got an email from the agent. Apparently the client is very unhappy that I've handed my notice in. They've told me that they want me to work my notice period.

        I've basically told them that I have personal business that I need to attend to and will be unavailable to work said notice period. Essentially threatening me for breach of contract.

        They made me feel like they couldn't wait to get me out of there and now I'm out, they're trying to suck me back in.
        tell them you have a substitute ready to go as per the terms of the contract. Do they want him or not?
        See You Next Tuesday

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          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          Is it the client or the agent who is threatening you with breach?
          At this stage, make sure you have everything in writing.
          Well my contract is with the agent, not the client. They're just peeved that I've walked and the commission is going to stop.

          Although I've never been in the predicament of terminating a contract early, I have always been under the impression that this is covered by simply declaring that you are unavailable for the duration of your contract. I'm not even speaking to the agent that got me in the role anymore, this is coming from her line manager.

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            Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
            Well my contract is with the agent, not the client. They're just peeved that I've walked and the commission is going to stop.

            Although I've never been in the predicament of terminating a contract early, I have always been under the impression that this is covered by simply declaring that you are unavailable for the duration of your contract. I'm not even speaking to the agent that got me in the role anymore, this is coming from her line manager.
            Yep that's commission related. The answer to that is that my last conversation with the client was that they didn't need me.
            merely at clientco for the entertainment

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              Originally posted by eek View Post
              Yep that's commission related. The answer to that is that my last conversation with the client was that they didn't need me.
              Correct. Let client discuss with agent. You're saving client money but costing agency commission. It's their bunfight to have, not yours
              The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                Originally posted by eek View Post
                Yep that's commission related. The answer to that is that my last conversation with the client was that they didn't need me.
                In fairness, when I told the client I wouldn't be returning I didn't really give him much of an opportunity to say anything. I left the place and didn't look back. I emailed the recruiter and told them immediately and didn't hear so much as a peep until this morning, (which is odd, I thought I'd have heard yesterday), and it's now all about working a notice period.

                The way I see it, whether I work a notice period or not is irrelevent. If I don't attend, I don't get my day rate, I'm out of pocket but willing to skip the money on account of me hating the place. The client doesn't have to pay me to attend when they clearly begrudge paying me even before I handed my notice in. The only party to get their knickers in a twist is the agent.

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                  Originally posted by Illustrious View Post
                  In fairness, when I told the client I wouldn't be returning I didn't really give him much of an opportunity to say anything. I left the place and didn't look back. I emailed the recruiter and told them immediately and didn't hear so much as a peep until this morning, (which is odd, I thought I'd have heard yesterday), and it's now all about working a notice period.

                  The way I see it, whether I work a notice period or not is irrelevent. If I don't attend, I don't get my day rate, I'm out of pocket but willing to skip the money on account of me hating the place. The client doesn't have to pay me to attend when they clearly begrudge paying me even before I handed my notice in. The only party to get their knickers in a twist is the agent.
                  all correct. You don't even need to tell the agency you're not turning up. Just provide them notice of termination. No signed timesheets = no money for them or you.
                  See You Next Tuesday

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                    Originally posted by Lance View Post
                    all correct. You don't even need to tell the agency you're not turning up. Just provide them notice of termination. No signed timesheets = no money for them or you.
                    Correct. Just tell them you've given notice. Working it is something that can be agreed with the client and the agent is simply told what's happening.
                    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                      Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                      Correct. Just tell them you've given notice. Working it is something that can be agreed with the client and the agent is simply told what's happening.
                      I personally don't see the client wanting me in there. The animosity between the senior dev and me after the chat we had at the weekend would make for a very frosty working environment.

                      In an ideal world I'd have preferred the client terminate the agreement with me but they'd have to pay me 7 days. I've suspected for a while now that the attitude and behavior has been more about getting me to walk of my own accord and thereby avoid paying me for terminating.

                      Luckily no such agreement exists the other way around. I can leave and simply say I'm not going back.

                      Going to email the agent and tell them it's tough luck but I'm concerned that last week's timesheet is going to not get processed in some punitive action on their part

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