How do you handle disgruntled permanent staff and management

[MrMarkyMark]

I personally don't see the client wanting me in there. The animosity between the senior dev and me after the chat we had at the weekend would make for a very frosty working environment.

In an ideal world I'd have preferred the client terminate the agreement with me but they'd have to pay me 7 days. I've suspected for a while now that the attitude and behavior has been more about getting me to walk of my own accord and thereby avoid paying me for terminating.

Luckily no such agreement exists the other way around. I can leave and simply say I'm not going back.

Going to email the agent and tell them it's tough luck but I'm concerned that last week's timesheet is going to not get processed in some punitive action on their part

I've had the boot put on the other foot before, 5 hours notice.
The fact that a weeks notice was written into the contract had no bearing on it.

[Lance]

In an ideal world I'd have preferred the client terminate the agreement with me but they'd have to pay me 7 days. I've suspected for a while now that the attitude and behavior has been more about getting me to walk of my own accord and thereby avoid paying me for terminating.

No they wouldn't. Not without a signed time sheet.

Going to email the agent and tell them it's tough luck but I'm concerned that last week's timesheet is going to not get processed in some punitive action on their part

Yup. You should have got it signed before you told them to foxtrot oscar.

[LondonManc]

I personally don't see the client wanting me in there. The animosity between the senior dev and me after the chat we had at the weekend would make for a very frosty working environment.

In an ideal world I'd have preferred the client terminate the agreement with me but they'd have to pay me 7 days. I've suspected for a while now that the attitude and behavior has been more about getting me to walk of my own accord and thereby avoid paying me for terminating.

Luckily no such agreement exists the other way around. I can leave and simply say I'm not going back.

Going to email the agent and tell them it's tough luck but I'm concerned that last week's timesheet is going to not get processed in some punitive action on their part

Check your contract for mutuality of obligation - they wouldn't have to pay you seven days if they told you that there was no work for you and not to come in.

[Illustrious]

My understanding is that even if no work was available I'm covered in the event they wished to end the contract. At the end if the day we're businesses too. However I'm not in the position to find that out since l terminated the agreement.

My timesheet is signed by the client, I'm concerned the agent in question will not process the invoice Unger the guise that I've breached contract.

Ordinarily I wouldn't be but the tone of the email and the fact that it's coming not from the agent with who I've conducted all my business so far but rather her boss is setting my spider sense tingling.

[Lance]

My timesheet is signed by the client, I'm concerned the agent in question will not process the invoice Unger the guise that I've breached contract.

Then don't breach the contract.
Serve notice and the rest is none of their business (read your contract to make sure).
Offer a substitute if really in doubt.
If the agent claims a breach, make them put it in writing and take them to court for breach if they don't pay you for the signed time sheet.

[Illustrious]

Then don't breach the contract.
Serve notice and the rest is none of their business (read your contract to make sure).
Offer a substitute if really in doubt.
If the agent claims a breach, make them put it in writing and take them to court for breach if they don't pay you for the signed time sheet.

Technically I'm two days into my notice period. I'd have to drive to the client, book the hotel and work Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. By default I'm already in breach if that's what they want to call it but to me this whole situation seems like an excuse to not cough up for a weeks work when the client had approved my timesheet.

Plus. I could work the rest if this week and find that my timesheet is never signed or my invoice not paid for the same reason. Only then I'm further out of pocket for the costs of getting there, staying there and coming home.

My gut is telling me to call their bluff. The contract makes no mention of working the seven days notice, only that they require it. More to the point, notice periods are usually there for a hand off. Nobody knows more about the code than the senior dev or PM.

[northernladuk]

Technically I'm two days into my notice period. I'd have to drive to the client, book the hotel and work Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. By default I'm already in breach if that's what they want to call it but to me this whole situation seems like an excuse to not cough up for a weeks work when the client had approved my timesheet.

Well you've certainly given them a perfect out to do this. No excuse needed

Plus. I could work the rest if this week and find that my timesheet is never signed or my invoice not paid for the same reason. Only then I'm further out of pocket for the costs of getting there, staying there and coming home.

They could but they would be in the wrong and will know it so a couple of stiff mails could have sorted it.

My gut is telling me to call their bluff. The contract makes no mention of working the seven days notice, only that they require it. More to the point, notice periods are usually there for a hand off. Nobody knows more about the code than the senior dev or PM.

Fill your boots. Breaching contracts always puts you in a really good position.. :|

[Lance]

Technically I'm two days into my notice period. I'd have to drive to the client, book the hotel and work Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. By default I'm already in breach if that's what they want to call it but to me this whole situation seems like an excuse to not cough up for a weeks work when the client had approved my timesheet.

they can call it what they like. Whether it is a breach or not depends on the contract and what you've done/said precisely.
IMO to serve notice (i.e. you tell them you want to terminate the contract as per the terms of the contract) won't put you in breach as long as you follow what it says in the termination clauses.
As for whether you turn up or not, that will not be a breach if you agree with the client that they have no work for you (assuming MOO clauses in contract).

You need to understand this otherwise the agency will pull your pants down everyday.

[Old Greg]

In fairness, when I told the client I wouldn't be returning I didn't really give him much of an opportunity to say anything. I left the place and didn't look back. I emailed the recruiter and told them immediately and didn't hear so much as a peep until this morning, (which is odd, I thought I'd have heard yesterday), and it's now all about working a notice period.

The way I see it, whether I work a notice period or not is irrelevent. If I don't attend, I don't get my day rate, I'm out of pocket but willing to skip the money on account of me hating the place. The client doesn't have to pay me to attend when they clearly begrudge paying me even before I handed my notice in. The only party to get their knickers in a twist is the agent.

Just tell them you're on leave for a week and unavailable for work, and then give a week's notice to terminate the contract.

[MrMarkyMark]

How do you handle disgruntled permanent staff and management

Looking through all these 17 pages, I just find myself wistfully thinking, "I'm sure Suity would have something to add of value here."