State of the Market

[SchumiStars]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

[sadkingbilly]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

for unprofessional, greedy webdevs maybe.
I've been fully remote for >15 years, and only one gig at a time.
I refuse any invitations other than full remote.

[SussexSeagull]

If you understand the risk and accept it because you're in a tough spot, that's one thing. The reality is that this forum is the pinnacle of understanding of IR35 among the contractors out there, and 90% of this forum is absolutely clueless. The joys of UK tax law and hoping for the best.

I think even the more learned people on here can only draw from common sense, experience and case law as there isn't really a definitive set of laws or precedence (and might never be as outside seems to be falling out of fashion).

[SussexSeagull]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

I kind of have sympathy for the man if he was keeping four sets of employers happy.

[avonleigh]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

So cos one person is doing this, you think everybody is doing it judging by your comment. I know loads of people who have been fully remote for years and only do one job. This guy is not in the majority. Not by a long shot. Hardly matters either way anyway as long as the person is doing what they are being paid to do. If they aren't then that's down to poor managment.

[avonleigh]

Just saw this on JobServe, looking for 15 people

x15 Java hires - Growing Payments team - Greenfield projects
London
Rate	£140k per annum
Type	Permanent
Posted By	Opus Recruitment Solutions Ltd
Contact	Rebeka Mulk
Telephone	0117 968 9292
Reference	JSPR/062359
Posted	28 minutes ago

Lead Java Developer | Growing Payments team - Greenfield Projects!
Java, Springboot, Microservices, TDD, AWS, Mongodb

I'm working with an innovative fintech headquartered in America that's quietly making waves in the digital payments space. They've recently gained international recognition through startup accelerators and growth academies and are backed by top-tier investors with a track record in scaling meaningful tech.

This company is building a brand-new payments infrastructure aimed at helping millions manage money across borders, focusing on financial inclusion, stability, and real-world impact. Their engineering team is scaling fast in the UK and the opportunity to shape this from the ground up is rare.

I'm hiring up to 15 Java Engineers, from mid-level to Lead Engineering roles. Tech stack includes Java, Spring Boot, Kotlin, Kafka, AWS, MongoDB and modern data tools.

Salary upto £140k + bonus and equity. Three stage interview process but they can turn around in less than 4 days!

We are particularly interested in people from payments, fintech, hedge funds or investment/banking background. Interested in learning more? Or know people who might be interested?

Please drop me a line to have an informal chat!

[willendure]

Its funny that they say they sacked Soham Parekh because they found out that he was working for other clients simultaneously. Not because he was doing a bad job! I mean if they were happy with his work, why care? But if his work was lousy and they could never get hold of him because he was too busy with his other clients, then surely that is the reason to fire him? In which case they didn't even need to find out he was moonlighting.

Sounds to me like he might have had 4 jobs that didn't require much effort on his part, otherwise there is no way he could possibly be doing 4 jobs. In which case why did the startups create those jobs for a full time person in the first place? Were they just wanting to waste money on a bum on a seat to sit and not do much? Is their management approach so lousy that they don't really know what their workers loads and rates of productivity are and are managing them effectively to keep them busy and engaged? If so, perhaps they should be firing some managers and rethinking how they run their teams to be more productive. Its very typical of UK and US management, in my opinion, to believe that management involves little work and just sort of telling people what to do. I experienced very different management styles when working for Scandinavian companies, where some of my managers worked hard to break down blockers and fill in details and set expectations and monitor progress and engage the team.

I would happily do multiple jobs if I could get away with it. Almost did last year, one full time and considered taking on an extra 40 hours/month job that was paying $150/hour. Got an interview and would have done it if offered, and I could easily have fitted it into my full time work load.

Current gig - no way would I take on extra work. I have to churn out a new technical design every 2 weeks and am kept constantly busy with it.

[Dorkeaux]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

Should stop? Not for any other reason?
Rather sweeping statements, Schumster.

I'm reminded of the two pre-WFH stories going around some years ago;
1) Dude takes 4 contracts in the square mile, owns four jackets. In the morning, goes to each client to put a jacket on a chair, does his office rounds all day. Takes home 4 day rates.
2) Dude2 takes multiple contracts, subs them out to Chinese developers. Manages the interaction with the clients, but pretends he is doing the work. By all accounts, the quality of work was great.

I'm not sure of the truth of these anecdotes, but these stories have been around a while and have nothing to do with WFH.

Personally, I can't manage more than one client at a time. Wish I could.
But WFH works great for me and my clients. Once you crack the way of working and use proper collaboration tools it's very efficient and opens the whole world up.

Possibly that's what you object to?

[pjt]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

Don't tar us all with that brush. I've been pretty much fully remote since COVID and in that time only ever worked for a single client at a time. Nearly had 2 part time roles at one point last year but both clients were aware.

[agentzero]

Soham Parekh
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechne...oogle_vignette

And this is why remote working should stop. Of course people want to WFH so that hey can do 2 or more jobs at the same time. Not for any other reason.

I disagree. Companies that want presentee ism rather than efficiency will fall behind the pack. If someone can manage two jobs from home and does them well then more power to them. Some people are very intelligent and able to juggle well. Some don't want to or simply can't.