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    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
    not a lot of people will want to work for a low rate
    I don't know how much people will have a choice, to be honest.

    In the last couple of months, for generic roles such as ba and pm I've only seen contracts inside ir35 and with daily rates of £200-250. Not many roles with higher rates, no outside roles whatsoever, and barely any decent permie role either.

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      Originally posted by Shackattack View Post
      This was a direct quote, doesn't matter if it's the BBC, Fox, the bloke in the pub which it wasn't. Do you have a point or is your brain trying to engage itself.
      BBC as opinion example. News is on now. Don't miss it.

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        Originally posted by thebone View Post
        BBC as opinion example. News is on now. Don't miss it.
        Let’s get this right, you detest the BBC. Why is that, and what influence does the BBC have on the state of the contracting market?

        Is it the piece they did on Putin’s plans that offends you?
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          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          Let’s get this right, you detest the BBC. Why is that, and what influence does the BBC have on the state of the contracting market?

          Is it the piece they did on Putin’s plans that offends you?
          Ask the bloke with the lengthy quotes. Wait for a bit. He's watching the news.

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            I'm also doing recruiting for React Native (fullstack is a bonus). 30 - 60k (DOE) + shares.

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              Originally posted by KentDogWalker View Post
              I'm also doing recruiting for React Native (fullstack is a bonus). 30 - 60k (DOE) + shares.
              So the same pay Devs had 20 years ago, but with the cost of living doubled?

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                Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                So the same pay Devs had 20 years ago, but with the cost of living doubled?
                The sad thing is that Dev pay hasn't increased for 20 odd years - the skillset I had earning £45k as a permie years ago still pays £45k as a permie. And if my company was paying that £45k we would have the pick of developers as local rates are lower than that.
                merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                  Originally posted by KentDogWalker View Post
                  I'm also doing recruiting for React Native (fullstack is a bonus). 30 - 60k (DOE) + shares.
                  Its Danny from Universal Media Design! He has decided in infiltrate CUK Watch out NLUK and whoever commented on the thread, he is coming to make you work from 7.45am with 4 screens because you are lucky that he wants you

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                    Originally posted by eek View Post
                    The sad thing is that Dev pay hasn't increased for 20 odd years - the skillset I had earning £45k as a permie years ago still pays £45k as a permie. And if my company was paying that £45k we would have the pick of developers as local rates are lower than that.
                    That's normal, skillsets devalue over time. You have to develop and move into new areas.
                    I'm alright Jack

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                      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                      That's normal, skillsets devalue over time. You have to develop and move into new areas.
                      Not quite - the skillset then required a bit of C# knowledge and some Javascript.

                      Now it would require decent knowledge of Azure / AWS C#, a large amount of Javascript / typescript / node knowledge and a few Javascript frameworks and a lot more besides.
                      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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